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by Carlo75 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:58 pm
Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are

(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills

(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are

(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills

(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills
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by netigen » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:59 pm
is the OA E?
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Re: Idiom - require

by vittalgmat » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:09 am
Carlo75 wrote:Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are

(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills

(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are

(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills

(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills

I think A is the answer. My analysis:

B: pay for JOBS .. same as for A JOB ..... : wrong comparison, changes the meaning.

C: "same in jobs" I think this is wrong preposition. should be 'for'

D: requiring != demanding

E: same as B.

Can u pls post the OA?

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by Carlo75 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:32 am
I do not the OA but here my analysis:

the correct use of the idiom of require in this case is REQUIRE X TO DO Y otherwise the use of the idiomatic form REQUIRE THAT X BE Y would put in this sentence the subjuctive mood that is not required here.

Therefore, the best answer is E even though as much for jobs ... as for a job is not parallel ...

Thoughts?
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by vittalgmat » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:02 am
Carlo75 wrote:I do not the OA but here my analysis:

the correct use of the idiom of require in this case is REQUIRE X TO DO Y otherwise the use of the idiomatic form REQUIRE THAT X BE Y would put in this sentence the subjuctive mood that is not required here.

Therefore, the best answer is E even though as much for jobs ... as for a job is not parallel ...

Thoughts?
I am not sure if E is right answer. To satisfy REQUIRE X TO DO Y pattern,
we should have "requires public and private blahblah to etc". but the original sentence has "requires OF...".
So not sure.

can a GMAT Expert pitch in??

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by netigen » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:32 am
Ans should be C

Requires of X to do Y

here X is of the form A and B

E is not parallel Jobs are being compared to a job
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by sanjaylakhani » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:31 am
Hi Netigen

Pay the SAME IN JOBS......does the use of IN sounds correct here....

you PAY FOR JOBS OR you PAY IN JOBS...

Can any expert pls clarify all the issues raised....
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by loki.gmat » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:08 am
i think we rquire a subjunctive mood here.
hence "that pay" is correct.
so C,D n E r out.

A scores over B as far as parallelism is concerned.

hence IMO A.


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by gmat740 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:27 pm
Although the topic is no longer active but I faced the same question while solving OG-10

OA is A

I got the answer wrong initially.
But here is my explanation

The sentence requires Subjunctive mood....so "that" is important.
C,D and E are out

Left with A and B

(B
) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
We never use SHOULD in subjunctive mood, So answer is A
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by iamcste » Fri May 01, 2009 2:30 am
gmat740 wrote:Although the topic is no longer active but I faced the same question while solving OG-10

OA is A

I got the answer wrong initially.
But here is my explanation

The sentence requires Subjunctive mood....so "that" is important.
C,D and E are out

Left with A and B

(B
) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
We never use SHOULD in subjunctive mood, So answer is A

Great! you could immediately apply what you learnt. Also, you should also improve the time you took for solving this. It shouldnt been more than few seconds. This is the beauty of subjunctive. when i see "require", I just think its in my pocket albeit you have to be careful.
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by gmat740 » Fri May 01, 2009 6:25 am
Thanks a lot iamcste. You have been a great help to guys like me.

I came across this subjunctive mood question.
Please give your feed back on this one.

https://www.beatthegmat.com/immigration- ... tml#145882
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by siddreal » Wed May 10, 2017 2:17 am
Choice A is best. In choice B, should is illogical after requires, or at least unnecessary, and so is better omitted;
in choices B and E, job does not agree in number with jobs; and in choices B, D, and E, the wording illogically
describes the comparable skills rather than the jobs as being "usually held by men." Choices C, D, and E
produce the ungrammatical construction requires of... employers to pay, in which of makes the phrase
incorrect. In C, the use of in rather than for is unidiomatic, and jobs of comparable skill confusedly suggests
that the jobs rather than the workers possess the skills. In D, the phrase beginning regardless ... is awkward
and wordy in addition to being illogical.
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