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by girish3131 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:41 am
The administration has increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of their campaign to protect miners.


has increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of their
have increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of their
has increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of its
has increased the amount of fines for mining safety violations as part of its
have increased the amount of fines for mining safety violations as part of their

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my ques is Author might intend to say that like initially fine was 100 $ but now it became 200 $. In this scenario we can use AMOUNT too.... Plz comment....[/spoiler] will post OA after few comments....

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by rohan_vus » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:54 am
Since 'the admininstration ' is used so 'has ' should be used , so A, C and D remain
A is out as it uses 'their' , as singular entity must be used instead

Between C and D , D is out as 'amount of fines' seems to be wrong. 'amount of fine' is ok to use but when you 'number of fines' its appropriate as 'fines' itself denotes it can be counted and hence cant be used along with amount . You can however use ''amount of money 'as money cant be counted .

But you cant use 'amount of xxx' where xxx is sth which is countable and 'fines' mean its beng treated as a countable entity.

So C IMO
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by harsh.champ » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:06 am
girish3131 wrote:The administration has increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of their campaign to protect miners.


has increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of their
have increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of their
has increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of its
has increased the amount of fines for mining safety violations as part of its
have increased the amount of fines for mining safety violations as part of their

[spoiler]
my ques is Author might intend to say that like initially fine was 100 $ but now it became 200 $. In this scenario we can use AMOUNT too.... Plz comment....[/spoiler] will post OA after few comments....

ta
Now, you are right,amount can be used but grammatically "amount of fines" is not correct-->"number of fines" seems more suited.
The author means to say"suppose initially 3 fines were there. No fine was imposed you dont wear the gloves but fines were there:-
1)If you dont wear the helmet
2)If you dont wear the safety boots
3)If you dont wear safety goggles

Now we ahve a 4th fine -If you dont wear gloves

So like this maybe number of fines has increased.

Well,this is my point of view.
If someone differs frm me,I would really like to hear their POV.

Any experts out there!!!




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by harsh.champ » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:07 am
rohan_vus wrote:Since 'the admininstration ' is used so 'has ' should be used , so A, C and D remain
A is out as it uses 'their' , as singular entity must be used instead

Between C and D , D is out as 'amount of fines' seems to be wrong. 'amount of fine' is ok to use but when you 'number of fines' its appropriate as 'fines' itself denotes it can be counted and hence cant be used along with amount . You can however use 'amount of dollars' or 'amount of money 'as dollars or money cant be counted .

But you cant use 'amount of xxx' where xxx is sth which is countable and 'fines' mean its beng treated as a countable entity.

So C IMO
Well,I didn't get ur explanation over there.
Dollars can be counted,I suppose.

Can you provide a brief explanation??
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by girish3131 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:17 am
Harsh

i think u haven't reat my ques...

i knw that there may b no. of fines . in that case of course u can say like .... number of fines...

BUT take this scenario ->

it is also possible that There is only one fine , whose amount has been increased... like earlier if somebody does electricity theft then fine was 100$ , which now has been increased to 200 $. So we can say like amount of fine of electricity theft has been increased.

wat u say...
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by rohan_vus » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:26 am
harsh.champ wrote:
rohan_vus wrote:Since 'the admininstration ' is used so 'has ' should be used , so A, C and D remain
A is out as it uses 'their' , as singular entity must be used instead

Between C and D , D is out as 'amount of fines' seems to be wrong. 'amount of fine' is ok to use but when you 'number of fines' its appropriate as 'fines' itself denotes it can be counted and hence cant be used along with amount . You can however use 'amount of dollars' or 'amount of money 'as dollars or money cant be counted .

But you cant use 'amount of xxx' where xxx is sth which is countable and 'fines' mean its beng treated as a countable entity.

So C IMO
Well,I didn't get ur explanation over there.
Dollars can be counted,I suppose.

Can you provide a brief explanation??
Yep . dollars is countable .Typo, edited original post
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by yeahdisk » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:42 am
yes - 'amount' is different to 'number', therefore any sentence containing 'amount' is changing the original intent of the questions and can be discounted.

IMO C
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by harshavardhanc » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:00 am
girish3131 wrote:

my ques is Author might intend to say that like initially fine was 100 $ but now it became 200 $. In this scenario we can use AMOUNT too.... Plz comment... will post OA after few comments....
In that case the author would use increased the amount of fine ... or increased the amount of the fines.............
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by vk_vinayak » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:00 am
I think C is correct. D seems to alter the meaning of the sentence.
What is the OA ?
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by kstv » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:45 am
The administration has increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of their campaign to protect miners.
has increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of their
have increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of their
has increased the number of fines for mining safety violations as part of its
has increased the amount of fines for mining safety violations as part of its
have increased the amount of fines for mining safety violations as part of their

Adiminstration is singular so the verb has is appropiate . Rule out B and E. their intending to refer to admin. is plural . singular its is correct. Eliminate A.
the amount of fine could make some sense but not amount of fines So C is the best option.
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by VikingWarrior » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:43 am
My answer is C
Why not D?
increasing amount of fines = increasing fines
increasing the number of fines means increasing the number of things that one can be fined for
D changes meaning
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