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by crackgmat007 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:03 am
From tons of steel and miles of twisted cables, J.A. Roebling and his son W.A. Roebling constructed the Brooklyn Bridge, which has since withstood over one hundred years of damaging weather so sturdy that engineers expect it to last at least another hundred years.


weather so sturdy

weather being so sturdy

weather, yet its sturdiness is such

weather, and of such sturdiness

weather, and is so sturdy
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by Shawshank » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:18 pm
IMO -- E
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by crackgmat007 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:34 pm
Shawshank wrote:IMO -- E
can you explain why E?

E has a 'and' and comma. But the second clause doesnt seem to have a subject.
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by maihuna » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:35 pm
Shawshank wrote:IMO -- E
Yes it is E.

The that in non underlined portion requires so to be in there, also, the two activities about the bridge as well will be in parallel. A is wrong as it creates run on sentence.
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Re: Brooklyn Bridge

by maihuna » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:41 pm
crackgmat007 wrote:From tons of steel and miles of twisted cables, J.A. Roebling and his son W.A. Roebling constructed the Brooklyn Bridge, which has since withstood over one hundred years of damaging weather so sturdy that engineers expect it to last at least another hundred years.


weather so sturdy : Confusion, seems to suggest the weather itself may last for another hundread years.
weather being so sturdy : Being doesn't add anything, same issue as A.
weather, yet its sturdiness is such: Which sturdiness?
weather, and of such sturdiness: Nonsensical, such requires as, if it is to give examples
weather, and is so sturdy: Correct, two properties describing the bridge are given using two clauses:

Brooklyn Bridge has since withstood over one hundred years of damaging weather,
and is so sturdy that engineers expect it to last at least another hundred years.

I have replaces which by its referent the bridge
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Re: Brooklyn Bridge

by crackgmat007 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:43 pm
maihuna wrote:
crackgmat007 wrote:From tons of steel and miles of twisted cables, J.A. Roebling and his son W.A. Roebling constructed the Brooklyn Bridge, which has since withstood over one hundred years of damaging weather so sturdy that engineers expect it to last at least another hundred years.


weather so sturdy : Confusion, seems to suggest the weather itself may last for another hundread years.
weather being so sturdy : Being doesn't add anything, same issue as A.
weather, yet its sturdiness is such: Which sturdiness?
weather, and of such sturdiness: Nonsensical, such requires as, if it is to give examples
weather, and is so sturdy: Correct, two properties describing the bridge are given using two clauses:

Brooklyn Bridge has since withstood over one hundred years of damaging weather,
and is so sturdy that engineers expect it to last at least another hundred years.

I have replaces which by its referent the bridge
Dont you think a pronoun must be there (it) before 'is so sturdy' to refer to the bridge?
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Re: Brooklyn Bridge

by maihuna » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:48 pm
Dont you think a pronoun must be there (it) before 'is so sturdy' to refer to the bridge?[/quote]\

Which option has it? Do not try to do whole PhD in a given statement. It will create more confusion. I am not a verbal expert, and can understand your point, which is a descriptive form, and and other comma separated form can not refer to it, right? But I will not worry as long as I don have an option having it.

BTW, what is your other option? That way we may close this issue, by finding fault with that option. Thats what we do PoE not PhD
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Re: Brooklyn Bridge

by crackgmat007 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:59 pm
maihuna wrote:Dont you think a pronoun must be there (it) before 'is so sturdy' to refer to the bridge?

Which option has it? Do not try to do whole PhD in a given statement. It will create more confusion. I am not a verbal expert, and can understand your point, which is a descriptive form, and and other comma separated form can not refer to it, right? But I will not worry as long as I don have an option having it.

BTW, what is your other option? That way we may close this issue, by finding fault with that option. Thats what we do PoE not PhD
haha...phd.

I was referring to option E; I was asking whether 'it' must be there before 'is so sturdy' to refer to the bridge (again in option E) in order for the option to be correct.
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by maihuna » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:05 pm
No, as a combined subject for two clauses the subject needn't be repeated.
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by crackgmat007 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:19 pm
maihuna wrote:No, as a combined subject for two clauses the subject needn't be repeated.
Not sure if the above rule is correct all the time.

MGMAT SC guide states that two independent clauses can be connected with 'and' and a comma. These clauses must have a subject and a predicate. Based on this rule, I eliminated E during PoE.

Can someone share some thoughts on the above two rules?
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by brick2009 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:04 pm
None of the other 4 options make any sense..so E is the last man standing...

But coming to the need for IT...
it is not required as the bridge is the only subject

also, the sentence structure is:

<ic>,<dc>,and <dc>
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Re: E

by crackgmat007 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:37 pm
brick2009 wrote:None of the other 4 options make any sense..so E is the last man standing...

But coming to the need for IT...
it is not required as the bridge is the only subject

also, the sentence structure is:

<ic>,<dc>,and <dc>

Ok lets look at the sentence with option E:

From tons of steel and miles of twisted cables, J.A. Roebling and his son W.A. Roebling <SUBJECT> constructed the Brooklyn Bridge <OBJECT>, which <REFERS TO THE BRIDGE> has since withstood over one hundred years of damaging weather, and is so sturdy that engineers expect it to last at least another hundred years.

We have two items here.


Brooklyn Bridge has since withstood over one hundred years of damaging weather

Brooklyn Bridge is so sturdy that engineers expect it to last at least another hundred years

Since there are two items in the list, AND is required, but a comma & AND is inappropriate - atleast in GMAT sense. Following this rule, E fails. The other rule is that every clause need to have a subject and a verb & E fails here too.

I am following these rules for PoE. Want to make sure these rules are correct. If yes, what am I missing in this question.
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