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by goelmohit2002 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:42 am
Stacey Koprince wrote:Oh, I see how they explained it. Yes, you could read it that way too (and, grammatically, you have to, actually), because "damaged" and "slowed" are parallel.

I was reading it based upon what I knew the meaning should be, logically. The original sentence is trying to discuss two possible effects of acid rain: slowing the growth of forests and damaging those same forests.

D says:
what role is played by acid rain in [damaged or slowed] growth of forests.

or = parallelism signal
the two -ed words are parallel and function as adjectives; they apply equally to the next noun (growth):
what role is played by acid rain in damaged growth
what role is played by acid rain in slowed growth

Now, because of the parallelism, I have "damaged growth" but the original sentence didn't say the growth was damaged. It just said the forests were damaged. (Well, potentially damaged - that's the debate, of course.)

(Note: and if you wanted to read it as "damaged" applies to forests, then you'd have "what role is played by acid rain in damaged forests" - which is also wrong, as I noted before. Either way, it's wrong. :))

In E, we've got:
what role is played by acid rain in [damaging or slowing the growth of] forests.

or = parallelism signal
the two -ed words are parallel and function as nouns this time (gerunds); they each apply equally to the rest of the sentence:
what role is played by acid rain in damaging forests
what role is played by acid rain in slowing <the growth of> forests

Now, you're actually describing the actions potentially taking place: damaging and slowing. "the growth of" is just extra modifying info. Slowing what? Slowing the growth.
Hi Stacey,

Actually I am a bit confused....why damaged and slowed can be interchanged in D but damaging and slowing cannot be interchanged....I am able to see only one diff i.e. "the"....can you please tell what diff. does it create ?

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by Stacey Koprince » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:57 pm
I think I understand what you're saying. Yes, you could interpret it as "damaged forests" and "slowed growth of forests" - but then you still have a meaning problem. What role acid rain plays in damaged forests - that makes it sound like the forests were already damaged by something else, before the acid rain came along. That's not the intention - the intention is to say that the acid rain is (potentially) causing damage - or damaging the forests.
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by goelmohit2002 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:16 pm
Stacey Koprince wrote:I think I understand what you're saying. Yes, you could interpret it as "damaged forests" and "slowed growth of forests" - but then you still have a meaning problem. What role acid rain plays in damaged forests - that makes it sound like the forests were already damaged by something else, before the acid rain came along. That's not the intention - the intention is to say that the acid rain is (potentially) causing damage - or damaging the forests.
Hi Stacey,

Thanks. But probably I was not clear in my last post....

OG says:

"Choice D also changes the meaning of the sentence by making both damaged and slowed refer to growth."

i.e. as per OG this is what D becomes:
what role is played by acid rain in damaged growth of forests
or slowed growth of forests.

As per OG the above is wrong....probably because( this is my own interpretation.....not given by OG :-)...) "damaged growth" is wrong.

But why the same is not the case with E ? why damaging cannot refer to growth in E ? i.e. why E is not interpreted like
what role is played by acid rain in damaging the growth of forests
or slowing the growth of forests.

Basically why E does not have the same problem as of D ? If we see D Vs E...there are only two differences:
i) "ing" form.
ii) addition of "the".....
I am not sure how the addition of "ing" or "the" places the odds in favour of E as compared to D.....

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by Stacey Koprince » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:11 am
"damaged or slowed growth of forests" - the "or" means parallelism, and the two words that are parallel are the adjectives "damaged" and "slowed", right? Those are adjectives - they can't stand alone. So both have to apply to whatever noun immediately follows ( in this case, "growth").

"damaging or slowing the growth of forests" - now, the word "the" in front of growth means "the growth of" can now just be additional words applying to the main -ing word "slowing." So, both -ing words are now free to apply to "forests."
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by goelmohit2002 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:54 am
Stacey Koprince wrote: "damaging or slowing the growth of forests" - now, the word "the" in front of growth means "the growth of" can now just be additional words applying to the main -ing word "slowing." So, both -ing words are now free to apply to "forests."
Thanks Stacey. But why can't the damaging and slowing apply to "the growth of forests" as single unit ?

Why "the growth of" and "forests" become two units in case of E and not in D ?

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by Stacey Koprince » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:46 am
So, try both answers both ways.

damaged growth and slowed growth. No good - wrong meaning

damaged forests and slowed growth of forests. No good - wrong meaning.

damaging the growth and slowing the growth. No good - wrong meaning

damaging forests and slowing the growth of forests. Correct, original meaning. Fine.

You can technically interpret each of these either way. But only one interpretation actually works correctly.
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by way2ashish » Sat May 04, 2013 7:41 pm
Correct Answer = A