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by mundasingh123 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:22 am
mike_gm wrote:I think this will be very challenging. I'm trying to boost my score by 50 and think I'll have a hard time.

I may be wrong, but I remember reading a statistic that said 93% of people who retake the GMAT a second time score within 30 points of their original score.
and that remaining 7 % score bettwer by a huge margin should be enough to motivate you to prep better for the retake
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by Orchid » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:14 pm
Ron, Thank you so much for your advice and useful resources. You have covered most of the areas that I need to improve. Thanks!

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by mirfan2 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:22 am
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by kumadil2011 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:08 pm
Ron, I have a query too

How often should i review the notes and the problems which i have solved?

I went through your tips mentioned in the below thread
(https://www.beatthegmat.com/550-to-720-i ... 72949.html)

Say- If i have a 3 month target for GMAT preparation, should i review the stuff which are done every day for 3 month? im reviewing it once in a week and 2nd review (which is on 20th day)on a second review i feel less confident than i was on the 1st rewiew.

I have my exam on 23feb2012, just started to revise quant which was revised last month (i scored 49 then in one of mgmat mock test) and its been a month now i have not revised and finding it difficult, dont know where to start, not confident either :(
should i re do all the problems (5 Mgmat Guide, OG12 QR, Prep collection total to 1000 questions) or just scan them, as i have only 20 days left.
Can you please guide me?

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by ngalinh » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:39 am
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* you should spend no more than 4-4.5 hours studying on any one day -- and, if you do 4 hours of studying, you should do 2 hours, then a LONG break, then 2 more hours. (adult humans are incapable of sufficient retention when studying for more than this long.)

--> but if I can find a way to make fun with my studies or find a way to put my mind at rest completely for 30 mins, these will no longer be true. is that right?

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by lunarpower » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:13 am
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lunarpower wrote::

* you should spend no more than 4-4.5 hours studying on any one day -- and, if you do 4 hours of studying, you should do 2 hours, then a LONG break, then 2 more hours. (adult humans are incapable of sufficient retention when studying for more than this long.)

--> but if I can find a way to make fun with my studies or find a way to put my mind at rest completely for 30 mins, these will no longer be true. is that right?
not really.
regardless of whether you can make fun and games out of it,** that's pretty much the maximum amount of learning or retention of which the normal adult human brain is capable, at least until you get some real rest/sleep. (30 minutes is a nice catnap/refresher, but it's not enough to kickstart neuron production in your brain.)

note, of course, that learning/retention is not to be confused with execution/recitation tasks, which people can pretty much do endlessly, although their performance suffers after a long enough time.
for instance, taking a test (as opposed to studying) doesn't involve any learning or retention. that's why people can grind through tests like the MCAT (which is 7-8 hours long) without too many issues. but, if you try to study for that long in a single day, it just isn't going to work -- half the stuff you "learn" is just going to fly out the other side of your head.
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by ngalinh » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:01 pm
lunarpower wrote:
ngalinh wrote:
lunarpower wrote::

* you should spend no more than 4-4.5 hours studying on any one day -- and, if you do 4 hours of studying, you should do 2 hours, then a LONG break, then 2 more hours. (adult humans are incapable of sufficient retention when studying for more than this long.)

--> but if I can find a way to make fun with my studies or find a way to put my mind at rest completely for 30 mins, these will no longer be true. is that right?
not really.
regardless of whether you can make fun and games out of it,** that's pretty much the maximum amount of learning or retention of which the normal adult human brain is capable, at least until you get some real rest/sleep. (30 minutes is a nice catnap/refresher, but it's not enough to kickstart neuron production in your brain.)

note, of course, that learning/retention is not to be confused with execution/recitation tasks, which people can pretty much do endlessly, although their performance suffers after a long enough time.
for instance, taking a test (as opposed to studying) doesn't involve any learning or retention. that's why people can grind through tests like the MCAT (which is 7-8 hours long) without too many issues. but, if you try to study for that long in a single day, it just isn't going to work -- half the stuff you "learn" is just going to fly out the other side of your head.

yeah,

actually that question related to an issue that I have experienced: limitations can be broken gradually through endurance. It's true for both physical and mental aspects.

but on the day I read your post, I experienced this thing:
after study for 6 hours, I relaxed at a fashion store. I picked a nice shirt, tried it. Beautiful! --> still conscious. Ok, now it's time to return it to the place (where the similar ones hang up). Where it it? It likes disappear forever. Then I didn't study more because I might not find where details located in the RC passage.

thank you! it (your advice) works :)

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by lunarpower » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:15 am
ngalinh wrote:but on the day I read your post, I experienced this thing:
after study for 6 hours, I relaxed at a fashion store. I picked a nice shirt, tried it. Beautiful! --> still conscious. Ok, now it's time to return it to the place (where the similar ones hang up). Where it it? It likes disappear forever. Then I didn't study more because I might not find where details located in the RC passage.

thank you! it (your advice) works :)
yep -- if you're looking for the same ideas elsewhere, you'll find them. the more random observations (like this one) you make, the more you'll learn about yourself in the process.
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by ngalinh » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:33 am
lunar power wrote:

yep -- if you're looking for the same ideas elsewhere, you'll find them. the more random observations (like this one) you make, the more you'll learn about yourself in the process.
yes, once we see the rule underlying one thing, we will see it "manifests" somewhere else.
for example: I see solving DS (some questions) very much likes catching chickens. Sometimes gmat is kind enough to provide me enough barriers to block the chicken's way to only 1 way: sufficient! But many times it makes me hunt chickens in a room with 2 ways or even in a yard, I know I'm not gonna hunt any more: insufficient!
or, solving PS likes preparing to burgle: carefully investigate the house, find as many doors as possible (so it's safe to get in and out)

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by lunarpower » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:13 am
ngalinh wrote:
lunar power wrote:

yep -- if you're looking for the same ideas elsewhere, you'll find them. the more random observations (like this one) you make, the more you'll learn about yourself in the process.
yes, once we see the rule underlying one thing, we will see it "manifests" somewhere else.
for example: I see solving DS (some questions) very much likes catching chickens. Sometimes gmat is kind enough to provide me enough barriers to block the chicken's way to only 1 way: sufficient! But many times it makes me hunt chickens in a room with 2 ways or even in a yard, I know I'm not gonna hunt any more: insufficient!
or, solving PS likes preparing to burgle: carefully investigate the house, find as many doors as possible (so it's safe to get in and out)
yep, that's the idea.
the point is to find your own intuitive ways of thinking about these tasks. yours aren't going to be the same as mine, but that's not the point; the point is to develop an intuitive understanding, by whatever means.
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by ngalinh » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:26 pm
lunarpower wrote: the point is to find your own intuitive ways of thinking about these tasks. yours aren't going to be the same as mine, but that's not the point; the point is to develop an intuitive understanding, by whatever means.
sounds attractive! provoke greediness. But the point is: how we can artificially develop intuitive understandings when we study something?

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by lunarpower » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:29 am
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lunarpower wrote: the point is to find your own intuitive ways of thinking about these tasks. yours aren't going to be the same as mine, but that's not the point; the point is to develop an intuitive understanding, by whatever means.
sounds attractive! provoke greediness. But the point is: how we can artificially develop intuitive understandings when we study something?
well, it's not really "artificial" -- an intuitive understanding will emerge more or less organically, as long as you're thinking in a way that's open to it.

in other words, as long as you are approaching the task in a way that's open to developing intuitive understanding, then it will gradually happen over time, without any "artificial" effort -- in the same way that you'd develop an intuition about other things, like, say, your relationship partner's habits.

this is only a problem, really, for people who approach this test by trying to memorize tons and tons of individual "rules", without paying mind to how the test actually works or to the mentality that's required to succeed at it.
that's the kind of thing that's not open to intuitive understanding in the first place -- after all, the whole point of memorization is, in general, to avoid thinking/intuition -- and so will prevent the requisite intuition(s) from forming. but, as long as that's not the way you are approaching the task, you should be all good.
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by ngalinh » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:10 am
lunarpower wrote:
well, it's not really "artificial" -- an intuitive understanding will emerge more or less organically, as long as you're thinking in a way that's open to it.

--> yes, my question came out at the time I felt so greedy after reading (read or reading?) your post. I wanted to have more and quickly ...intuitive understanding, which needs time to develop. This is an example of how emotion affects reason.


in other words, as long as you are approaching the task in a way that's open to developing intuitive understanding, then it will gradually happen over time, without any "artificial" effort -- in the same way that you'd develop an intuition about other things, like, say, your relationship partner's habits.

this is only a problem, really, for people who approach this test by trying to memorize tons and tons of individual "rules", without paying mind to how the test actually works or to the mentality that's required to succeed at it.
that's the kind of thing that's not open to intuitive understanding in the first place -- after all, the whole point of memorization is, in general, to avoid thinking/intuition -- and so will prevent the requisite intuition(s) from forming. but, as long as that's not the way you are approaching the task, you should be all good.
--> a lot of words. Just give me a good example :) (just kidding, I think I know it through your other posts)
I think the reason why many people (I was one among of them) are memorization-test leaners is that in the beginning period, we (learners) actually have to memory basic knowledge. But since we have that foundation, we have to get into another period: "developing intuitive understanding"-as you said.