D=R*T problem (intermediate)

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D=R*T problem (intermediate)

by lilu » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:55 pm
John and Jacob set out together on bicycle traveling at 15 and 12 miles per hour, respectively. After 40 minutes, John stops to fix a flat tire. If it takes John one hour to fix the flat tire and Jacob continues to ride during this time, how many hours will it take John to catch up to Jacob assuming he resumes his ride at 15 miles per hour? (consider John's deceleration/acceleration before/after the flat to be negligible)
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3 1/3
3 1/2
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4 1/2

OA is B
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by DanaJ » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:38 pm
After 40 minutes or 2/3 of an hour, you have the following situation:
- John has traveled 2/3 * 15 = 10 miles
- Jacob has traveled 2/3 * 12 = 8 miles.

Now, after an additional hour, Jacob goes an extra 12 miles, while his friend is fixing the flat tire. After he's done, he starts pedaling again, and you're looking for the time it took John to catch up. Say that time is t. You will get the following equation:
15t + 2 = 12 + 12t. This is because:
- John had traveled 2 extra miles before he got the flat tire
- Jacob traveled for an hour before John could resume

3t = 10
t = 10/3 = 3h and 1/3.

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by lilu » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:58 pm
This was an official explanation:


It is easier to break this motion up into different segments. Let's first consider the 40 minutes up until John stops to fix his flat.

40 minutes is 2/3 of an hour.
In 2/3 of an hour, John traveled 15 × 2/3 = 10 miles (rt = d)
In that same 2/3 of an hour, Jacob traveled 12 × 2/3 = 8 miles
John therefore had a two-mile lead when he stopped to fix his tire.

It took John 1 hour to fix his tire, during which time Jacob traveled 12 miles. Since John began this 1-hour period 2 miles ahead, at the end of the period he is 12 – 2 = 10 miles behind Jacob.
The question now becomes "how long does it take John to bridge the 10-mile gap between him and Jacob, plus whatever additional distance Jacob has covered, while traveling at 15 miles per hour while Jacob is traveling at 12 miles per hour?" We can set up an rt = d chart to solve this.


John's travel during this "catch-up period" can be represented as 15t = d + 10
Jacob's travel during this "catch-up period" can be represented as 12t = d

If we solve these two simultaneous equations, we get:
15t = 12t + 10
3t = 10
t = 3 1/3 hours

Another way to approach this question is to note that when John begins to ride again, Jacob is 10 miles ahead. So John must make up those first 10 miles plus whatever additional distance Jacob has covered while both are riding. Since Jacob's additional distance at any given moment is 12t (measuring from the moment when John begins riding again) we can represent the distance that John has to make up as 12t + 10. We can also represent John's distance at any given moment as 15t. Therefore, 15t = 12t + 10, when John catches up to Jacob. We can solve this question as outlined above.

The correct answer is B.
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by scoobydooby » Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:43 pm
can also apply the relative velocity concept here.

John: 15mph, Jacob: 12mph=> John gains 15-12=3mph over Jacob
In 40 min or 2/3 hr, John gains 3*2/3=2m over Jacob.

In the 1 hr, john fixes his car Jacob gains 12m over John

or Jacob is (-2+12)=10m ahead of John.

John gains 3m over Jacob in 1 hr, so to cover the distance of 10m between them John would take 10/3= 3 1/3 hours (unitary method)

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by krisraam » Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:44 pm
John 15mph ie 5mph for every 20 minutes

In 40 minutes John travels 10 miles and jacob travels 8 miles

Jacob alone travels for 1 hr covering furthur 12 miles.

When John starts jacob will be 10 miles ahead.

For every 1hr john travels 3 miles more than jacob.

in 3 hrs he covers 9 miles and in next 20 minutes he covers 1 miles summing up 10 miles difference

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by sureshbala » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:25 am
I have a bit different approach using which we can reduce some calculations mentioned here.

It is clear that, in the total journey John has taken 1 hour less than Jacob.

Since the speeds of John and Jacob are 15 mph and 12mph, we can find out that if the distance is 60 miles, John will take 4 hrs and Jacob will take 5 hrs and hence John takes 1 hr less than Jacob which will enable him to catch up with Jacob.

So total journey time of John is 4 hrs out of which 40 minutes is already done. So he has to travel for another 3 hr 20 min