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by Jatinder » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:54 am
Does the following statement has sentence fragment error :?

all states face a similar industrial waste problem; their predominating industries and regulatory environment obviously determines
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by EricLien9122 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:22 am
IMO, determines should be determine, b/c the subject is plural for the second clause. I don't see anything else wrong with it.

Please correct me if i am wrong.
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by Jatinder » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:58 am
Pls see the OG question OG11 Q52:

While all states face similar industrial waste problems, the predominating industries and regulatory environment of the states obviously determines the types and amounts of waste produced, as well as the cost of disposal.
(A) all states face similar industrial waste problems, the predominating industries and regulatory environment of the states obviously determines

(B) each state faces a similar industrial waste problem, their predominant industries and regulatory environment obviously determine

(C) all states face a similar industrial waste problem; their predominating industries and regulatory environment obviously determines

(D) each state faces similar industrial waste problems, the predominant industries and regulatory environment of each state obviously determines


(E) all states face similar industrial waste problems, the predominant industries and the regulatory environment of each state obviously determine


The explanation says for C : "Using a semicolon creates a sentence fragment"

i did't understand this as, IMO, the clause after semicolon is independant and has proper subject and verb.

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by logitech » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:03 am
what does THEIR refer to in the second sentence ? Or in other words, does THEIR make the second sentence an independent clause ?
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by EricLien9122 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:05 am
I am not sure what's the OA, but I would go for E.

A) determines should be determine.
B) their should be its.
C) same as A.
D) same as A.

I am not sure why C creates a fragment, but the fact that the sentence uses determines is not correct.

Please share your thoughts.
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by Jatinder » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:08 am
EricLien9122 wrote:I am not sure what's the OA, but I would go for E.

A) determines should be determine.
B) their should be its.
C) same as A.
D) same as A.

I am not sure why C creates a fragment, but the fact that the sentence uses determines is not correct.

Please share your thoughts.
OA is E, but i am concerned about the sentence fragment error

I found the following coorect statement from net :

Penguins are amusing and interesting birds; their natural habitat is
the Antarctic.
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by logitech » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:13 am
Jatinder wrote:
EricLien9122 wrote:I am not sure what's the OA, but I would go for E.

A) determines should be determine.
B) their should be its.
C) same as A.
D) same as A.

I am not sure why C creates a fragment, but the fact that the sentence uses determines is not correct.

Please share your thoughts.
OA is E, but i am concerned about the sentence fragment error

I found the following coorect statement from net :

Penguins are amusing and interesting birds; their natural habitat is
the Antarctic.
it would be useful to learn whether we can use a PRONOUN in a sentence as the subject and still use " ; "

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by stop@800 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:52 pm
The explanation says for C : "Using a semicolon creates a sentence fragment"
Jatinder,
Afetr using a semicolon the first part of sentence becomes
"While all states face a similar industrial waste problem"
which is infact a fragment.

Reread the statement you will yourself realize.

what does THEIR refer to in the second sentence ? Or in other words, does THEIR make the second sentence an independent clause ?
logitech,
their in second sentence refers to all states.

There is no problem wrt there as mentioned by Jatinder with another example.
Penguins are amusing and interesting birds; their natural habitat is the Antarctic.

it would be useful to learn whether we can use a PRONOUN in a sentence as the subject and still use " ; "
logitech,
Yes we can.
After ; we can use pronoun as subject.
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by schumi_gmat » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:05 pm
JAtinder,

you are missing out on the contrast introduced by While. IF you are starting a sence with a while, then their has to be contrasting position to it. If it is terminated with semicolon or full stop then it is a fragment.
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by logitech » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:09 pm
stop@800 wrote:
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by Bidisha800 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:15 pm
While all states face a similar industrial waste problem; -- is a fragment.
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by Jatinder » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:08 pm
stop@800 wrote:
The explanation says for C : "Using a semicolon creates a sentence fragment"
Jatinder,
Afetr using a semicolon the first part of sentence becomes
"While all states face a similar industrial waste problem"
which is infact a fragment.

Reread the statement you will yourself realize.

what does THEIR refer to in the second sentence ? Or in other words, does THEIR make the second sentence an independent clause ?
logitech,
their in second sentence refers to all states.

There is no problem wrt there as mentioned by Jatinder with another example.
Penguins are amusing and interesting birds; their natural habitat is the Antarctic.

it would be useful to learn whether we can use a PRONOUN in a sentence as the subject and still use " ; "
logitech,
Yes we can.
After ; we can use pronoun as subject.
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by lunarpower » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:12 am
Jatinder wrote:i did't understand this as, IMO, the clause after semicolon is independant and has proper subject and verb.
entirely correct.
unfortunately, the part BEFORE the semicolon is a sentence fragment; it's just a subordinate clause ("While..."), without any main clause attached to it.

remember that both the part before the semicolon and the part after it must be independent clauses.
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