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Manhattan GMAT Question...

by mohish » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:14 am
In the MGMAT SC guide, the following sentence is deemed incorrect:

"Stacey would have gone to the party if she knew about it".

MGMAT says that "if she knew" conveys the meaning that perhaps Stacey DID know about the party.

I am having difficulty grasping this. Can someone pls help.

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Re: Manhattan GMAT Question...

by goelmohit2002 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:16 am
mohish wrote:In the MGMAT SC guide, the following sentence is deemed incorrect:

"Stacey would have gone to the party if she knew about it".

MGMAT says that "if she knew" conveys the meaning that perhaps Stacey DID know about the party.

I am having difficulty grasping this. Can someone pls help.

Thanks.
There is another problem in the above sentence....the antecedent to "it" is not clear.....there is no noun to which "it" refers.

Are u sure that you have taken the sentence from MGMAT...there looks to be another problem in this sentence...the sentence does not seem to follow the below paradigm

if <past tense>, then would/could...
if <past perfect>, then would/could have....
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Re: Manhattan GMAT Question...

by hemanth28 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:27 am
mohish wrote:In the MGMAT SC guide, the following sentence is deemed incorrect:

"Stacey would have gone to the party if she knew about it".

MGMAT says that "if she knew" conveys the meaning that perhaps Stacey DID know about the party.

I am having difficulty grasping this. Can someone pls help.

Thanks.
Even to me their explanation is confusing:roll:. However according to me this sentence is a conditional sentence. the clause starting with "if" should be in past perfect tense if the verb in other clause is past participle.

"Stacy would have gone to the party if she had known about it.

or for the clause starting with if to be in past tense then the verb in other clause should be in present tense.

"Stacy would go to the party if she knew about it "
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Re: Manhattan GMAT Question...

by hemanth28 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:30 am
goelmohit2002 wrote:
mohish wrote:In the MGMAT SC guide, the following sentence is deemed incorrect:

"Stacey would have gone to the party if she knew about it".

MGMAT says that "if she knew" conveys the meaning that perhaps Stacey DID know about the party.

I am having difficulty grasping this. Can someone pls help.

Thanks.
There is another problem in the above sentence....the antecedent to "it" is not clear.....there is no noun to which "it" refers.

Are u sure that you have taken the sentence from MGMAT...there looks to be another problem in this sentence...the sentence does not seem to follow the below paradigm

if <past tense>, then would/could...
if <past perfect>, then would/could have....
it crealy refers to the party. Is there anything other than part 'it' refers to?
Please explain? However the other issue is what is the problem with the sentance !!
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Re: Manhattan GMAT Question...

by mohish » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:10 am
hemanth28 wrote: the clause starting with "if" should be in past perfect tense if the verb in other clause is past participle.

"Stacy would have gone to the party if she had known about it.

or for the clause starting with if to be in past tense then the verb in other clause should be in present tense.

"Stacy would go to the party if she knew about it "
Hi Hemanth,

Could you pls let me know where is this rule about conditional statements mentioned? This looks like a handy rule to have.

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Re: Manhattan GMAT Question...

by goelmohit2002 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:15 am
hemanth28 wrote: it crealy refers to the party. Is there anything other than part 'it' refers to?
Please explain? However the other issue is what is the problem with the sentance !!
Yes hemanth you are right, it here clearly refers to party....I missed the same :-(
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Re: Manhattan GMAT Question...

by goelmohit2002 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:17 am
mohish wrote:
hemanth28 wrote: the clause starting with "if" should be in past perfect tense if the verb in other clause is past participle.

"Stacy would have gone to the party if she had known about it.

or for the clause starting with if to be in past tense then the verb in other clause should be in present tense.

"Stacy would go to the party if she knew about it "
Hi Hemanth,

Could you pls let me know where is this rule about conditional statements mentioned? This looks like a handy rule to have.

Thanks.
IMO the rule that hemanth is talking about is mentioned in Verb, tense chaper of Manhattan...

The basic rule is:

if <present tense>, [then] <can/will>
if <past tense>, [then] <could/would>
if <past perfect>, [then] <could have/would have>
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Re: Manhattan GMAT Question...

by hemanth28 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:45 am
mohish wrote:
hemanth28 wrote: the clause starting with "if" should be in past perfect tense if the verb in other clause is past participle.

"Stacy would have gone to the party if she had known about it.

or for the clause starting with if to be in past tense then the verb in other clause should be in present tense.

"Stacy would go to the party if she knew about it "
Hi Hemanth,

Could you pls let me know where is this rule about conditional statements mentioned? This looks like a handy rule to have.

Thanks.
If ... Then tense construction (Tense ,mood and Voice Strategy). In Manhatten SC Verbal Strategy Guide .
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by Domnu » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:02 pm
The correction should be:

Stacey would have gone to the party if she had known about it.

Particularly, this is the past perfect.
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