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by dextar » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:06 pm
13. A majority of the international journalists surveyed view nuclear power stations as unsafe at present but that they will, or could, be made sufficiently safe in the future.
(A) that they will, or could,
(B) that they would, or could,
(C) they will be or could
(D) think that they will be or could
(E) think the power stations would or could

Why is option B and E wrong here?
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Re: 1000SC:q13

by lunarpower » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:24 am
dextar wrote:13. A majority of the international journalists surveyed view nuclear power stations as unsafe at present but that they will, or could, be made sufficiently safe in the future.
(A) that they will, or could,
(B) that they would, or could,
(C) they will be or could
(D) think that they will be or could
(E) think the power stations would or could

Why is option B and E wrong here?
choice b has terrible parallelism:
'journalists ... view nuclear power stations as unsafe as present but that they would...'
ugh.
also, 'would' is an inappropriate tense to use here; it's the past-tense equivalent of 'will'. if the prediction was made in the past, and were reported in the past tense, then 'would' be appropriate ('the journalist said that power stations would...'). however, the prediction is reported in the present tense and concerns the future, so 'will', not 'would', is appropriate.

choice e:
i find the repetition of 'power stations' a bit unsavory, but in strict gmat grammar terms it may be necessary (because 'journalists' is also plural). i think the authors here are ruling out 'journalists' as a possible antecedent for two reasons:
1) it doesn't jibe with common sense
2) it's the object of a preposition
on the actual gmat, #1 of these is not sufficient justification for ruling out a possible antecedent (there are plenty of OG examples that are marked wrong due to ambiguous pronouns, even though common sense makes amply clear which word is the antecedent). i'm not so sure about #2, bit the gmat tends to be EXTREMELY conservative about pronouns having non-ambiguous antecedents.
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by camitava » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:36 am
Ron,
Dnt mind! To me, it seemed that E is the best option to chose because it is only having a proper reference to corresponding nouns. I mean THEY in the Qs can refer both the journalists and nuclear power stations.
If E is not the best option to chose, then which other option can be the best one? This is a Qs to Dextar too! Pls, provide the OA.
Correct me If I am wrong


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by AleksandrM » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:08 am
Given the other choices, I would say that the best choice is D. "think that they will be or could" - they is not preceded by journalists, so we know that they is referring to the power stations. One could say that it then implies that the power stations are the ones doing the thinking, but choice D still seems to be the correct one given the mistakes in other choices.

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by lunarpower » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:10 pm
camitava wrote:Ron,
Dnt mind! To me, it seemed that E is the best option to chose because it is only having a proper reference to corresponding nouns. I mean THEY in the Qs can refer both the journalists and nuclear power stations.
If E is not the best option to chose, then which other option can be the best one? This is a Qs to Dextar too! Pls, provide the OA.
i think you're right about the ambiguous pronoun (a message i tried to convey in my response above). i just think that the compilers of 1000sc are a little sloppier in applying pronoun standards than are the authors of the official tests.

one thing to keep in mind: 1000sc is not the world's greatest source. some of it is good practice, but some of the problems are just plain bad, containing mistakes and/or notable departures from common gmat grammar and usage conventions. therefore, if you disagree with the solution to a 1000sc problem based on a grammar convention you've noticed in official problems (as you have here), you're probably right.

in any case, you should completely exhaust the problems in the official guides before you even think about turning to 1000sc. that way (1) you'll get to the real problems first, and, more importantly, (2) you'll learn the way the real problems work, so you won't have to un-learn anything later.

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by dextar » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:18 pm
lunarpower wrote:
i think you're right about the ambiguous pronoun (a message i tried to convey in my response above). i just think that the compilers of 1000sc are a little sloppier in applying pronoun standards than are the authors of the official tests.

one thing to keep in mind: 1000sc is not the world's greatest source. some of it is good practice, but some of the problems are just plain bad, containing mistakes and/or notable departures from common gmat grammar and usage conventions. therefore, if you disagree with the solution to a 1000sc problem based on a grammar convention you've noticed in official problems (as you have here), you're probably right.

in any case, you should completely exhaust the problems in the official guides before you even think about turning to 1000sc. that way (1) you'll get to the real problems first, and, more importantly, (2) you'll learn the way the real problems work, so you won't have to un-learn anything later.

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Hi thanks for replying lunarpower.
OA is D . However. given your way of reasoning , I find it hard to be convinced about option D. HOw can we have 'will' or 'could' in the same sentence. If we are talking about tense here , then it should be 'can' instead of 'could' in option D. I think the only difference between 'will' and would' is about the tense here ;similarly between 'can' and 'could'. Am I right?

Also , I need your suggestion lunarpower .I have done SC from OG -11 and Kaplan Premier and thought 1000 Sc to be a great source. If not then what should I do next for improving my SC ?

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by lunarpower » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:22 am
that's a very good point about 'could'; however, a few sources i've found appear to allow 'could' more latitude than 'would'. here's an example:
https://www.englishpage.com/modals/could.html
that example specifically allows 'could' to stand for a possibility, even when it's used in the present tense. 'would', by contrast, is generally not allowed such latitude; as used in this sentence, it's definite (no issue of possibility; some of the journalists have definitely said 'X WILL happen').

in any case, here's the most important point: if you're going to decide tough questions of usage/diction, the OG / gmatprep is the only infallible source (and even gmatprep is of questionable value, as it doesn't have an answer key). the og makes most usage/diction decisions in ways you'd probably expect, but it occasionally gives verdicts that contradict those of most other usage experts.

it's gmac's game, so ultimately you have to play by their rules. (unfortunately, they shift the goalposts on occasion...)

1000sc isn't a bad source, overall; from what i've seen, a majority of its questions are fairly solid, and its treatment of major grammatical topics such as parallelism and agreement is normally pretty good. however, it is known for being unreliable on occasional issues involving diction / word choice. therefore, here's my advice: use it for practice on major points of grammar, but don't split hairs about word choice issues like can/could. if you're going to nitpick those issues, do so on the official questions.

good luck!
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