Hello everyone, I just started preparing for my GMAT and this is my very first post (of probably many) in these forums, so I hope that I don't violate any kind of forum rules or anything already with my first post 
So actually before coming to my real question: if I have difficulties with a problem out of one of the prep books (e.g. Manhattan, Kaplan, whatever..) can I actually post that problem here including my question or will this be seen as a severe copyright violation by the members of this forum?
Anyways, my question regards a problem which was already posted here last here, so I am just going to post you the link to the thread and only write down here the part of the sentence which I don't really get.
https://www.beatthegmat.com/national-rec ... tml#156678
My question regards the first half of the sentence:
"Although William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including those for the 1942 film 'Reap the Wild Wind', ..."
Also, I should probably mention that I'm not a native speaker of the English language. That being said, here's my problem: Among the answer choices, there are some which include "those" and some that include "that" as an alternative for the word "those" in the sentence above. On page 15 and also in the old thread regarding this problem (see link above) Manhattan argues, that using "that" instead of "those" would be wrong because it clearly refers to "movie set designs" which is plural. So, of course, I 100% understand this line of argumentation. However, from my CURRENT knowledge of English grammar I would absolutely disagree with this conclusion. Instead, I would have thought, that both "that" and "those" would be perfectly correct from a grammatical point of view. So it would be great if someone could correct my misunderstanding here.
That's what I would have thought:
So, this William guy gained national recognition for several movie set designs (clearly plural) in the past. Out of these numerous designs ONE OR MORE were used in some specific movie. So, I would have thought, if I say "...movie designs, including that for the film..." it just clarifies, that out of the numerous designs he gained recognition for only ONE was used in this movie. Whereas, if I say "...movie designs, including those for the film..." not only one single design was used in this movie but several ones. Or to paraphrase it: I thought, "...movie designs, including that for the film..." could be used as a kind of abbreviation for "...movie designs, including that one movie design which was used for the film...".
I really apologize for this very long post but it would be really helpful to me if I could understand this basic point.
Thanks a lot
J
So actually before coming to my real question: if I have difficulties with a problem out of one of the prep books (e.g. Manhattan, Kaplan, whatever..) can I actually post that problem here including my question or will this be seen as a severe copyright violation by the members of this forum?
Anyways, my question regards a problem which was already posted here last here, so I am just going to post you the link to the thread and only write down here the part of the sentence which I don't really get.
https://www.beatthegmat.com/national-rec ... tml#156678
My question regards the first half of the sentence:
"Although William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including those for the 1942 film 'Reap the Wild Wind', ..."
Also, I should probably mention that I'm not a native speaker of the English language. That being said, here's my problem: Among the answer choices, there are some which include "those" and some that include "that" as an alternative for the word "those" in the sentence above. On page 15 and also in the old thread regarding this problem (see link above) Manhattan argues, that using "that" instead of "those" would be wrong because it clearly refers to "movie set designs" which is plural. So, of course, I 100% understand this line of argumentation. However, from my CURRENT knowledge of English grammar I would absolutely disagree with this conclusion. Instead, I would have thought, that both "that" and "those" would be perfectly correct from a grammatical point of view. So it would be great if someone could correct my misunderstanding here.
That's what I would have thought:
So, this William guy gained national recognition for several movie set designs (clearly plural) in the past. Out of these numerous designs ONE OR MORE were used in some specific movie. So, I would have thought, if I say "...movie designs, including that for the film..." it just clarifies, that out of the numerous designs he gained recognition for only ONE was used in this movie. Whereas, if I say "...movie designs, including those for the film..." not only one single design was used in this movie but several ones. Or to paraphrase it: I thought, "...movie designs, including that for the film..." could be used as a kind of abbreviation for "...movie designs, including that one movie design which was used for the film...".
I really apologize for this very long post but it would be really helpful to me if I could understand this basic point.
Thanks a lot
J
