GMAT --> GRE?

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GMAT --> GRE?

by speedyb09 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:56 pm
I know this is called Beat the GMAT and not Beat the GRE, so I apologize if I am stepping a bit out of bounds on this one... but I am sure people have thought of this before.
I have less than a month before my GMAT, and I have made negative progress -- yes, I have been studying, and things seem to stick, until I take the practice tests. Then suddenly all of the [math] questions look like gibberish and I sit there staring at the first question saying, "I don't even know what you are asking."
Seriously, this is breaking my heart. I wanted to accomplish the incredibly feat of going from a 570 to a 680, but instead... I am just stuck, and it is depressing.

I realized today that all of my schools accept the GRE in the application. I plan on taking a diagnostic GRE tomorrow to see if it is worth the switch. It might not be, but I thought it would be worth the effort of seeing.
If the switch does seem worth the effort, I have a few questions that someone might have some answers to:

1. How do you switch gears from studying for the GMAT to the GRE? What information should I continue to use/study in my brain?
2. On that note, I have been using the Knewton software to study for the GMAT, and I have access to the MGMAT set of books [thanks, b-school neighbor!]. Should I continue at least the math sections [without Data Sufficiency] in these materials? What of this can I continue to use? What other things should I add to my collection?
3. I have read so many negative articles about why you should take the GMAT and not the GRE. But would it be better for me to score well [hopefully] on the GRE instead of poorly on the GMAT? And on that note, I feel like I need a more valid excuse as to why I took the GRE instead of the GMAT if someone asks... anyone got a good-sounding reason?
4. Has anyone done this before? Lessons learned? Advice on how to do this in three weeks?

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you!
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by [email protected] » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:14 am
Hi speedyb09,

While many aspects of the GMAT criss-cross with the GRE, the GRE has enough elements of its own that would require some serious study time. One of the most significant differences between these 2 tests is that the GRE puts a bigger emphasis on one's vocabulary (and knowing how words relate to other words).

You should absolutely take a free GRE practice test for comparison purposes. It's certainly possible that your skill set makes the GRE the "better" option for you. That having been said, if you're not a great GMAT test taker yet, you probably aren't a great GRE test taker right now either. Regardless of which test you take, you're probably going to need to push back your test date and study some more.

About half the Business Schools out there currently take the GRE, and you don't have to make any "excuses" about taking the GRE instead of the GMAT.

Before you radically change any of your plans, let's see how the GRE practice test goes. Even though the scoring ranges are different, it's easy enough to align your performances on the 2 exams, so you can learn if you're truly "better" at one of them.

As far as figuring out what your problem is with the GMAT, what have your practice test scores been? The more specific you can be when answering this question, the easier we'll all be able to make suggestions.

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by speedyb09 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:51 pm
Thanks for your reply. I just took the diagnostic GRE test with no studying. I realized that I would have a lot of vocabulary to learn, and since I hadn't gotten to reviewing geometry in the GMAT study, this would be important. I would also need to keep my mind focused on Reading Comprehension. Either way, I scored:
V- 154
Q- 155

This is how my GMAT scores have been:
6/14/2008: 540 (Q- 29, V- 36) [did this with minimal studying 5 years ago]
6/14/2013: 570 (Q- 35, V- 34) [Diagnostic to start my GMAT prep]
7/2/2013: 540 (Q- 30, V- 35)

And then I started another one yesterday and it was SO BAD that I didn't finish it out of frustration. I know, not very helpful in this case. But, it felt like it would still be in the 540 range, or worse.

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by [email protected] » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:17 pm
Hi speedyb09,

Your GRE and GMAT scores are fairly equivalent (even though the percentiles would appear "off"). Based on your current level of ability, and the amount of time that you've been studying (which appears to be about 6 weeks), I wouldn't recommend switching tests just yet. Some students need more time to become familiar with the test content and weed out their silly mistakes. From a tactical standpoint, it might be that the materials you're using don't quite work best with your sensibilities.

With your Quant Scaled Scores, I'd recommend putting more time into Data Sufficiency, Algebra and "how" you're organizing your work. Check out the EMPOWERgmat Free DS Workshop & Quiz for some tactics that you might find useful. It could work as a valuable supplement for the work that you're doing now.

If you have any additional questions, then feel free to contact me directly,

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by David@VeritasPrep » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:46 pm
Please remember when considering tests that neither the GMAT nor the GRE is "easier." You are trying to score well on the tests, which means score well in comparison to others. So if the test were actually easier for everyone they would all just score higher and you would have to score even higher than that...if you see what I mean.

What you want is the test that conforms more to the way that you think. I believe that the GMAT is a great test and since it is all a test of decision making it is a test that can be learned to a large degree. However, there may be some people who are looking to go to business school and are better suited to the GRE. With that said, I would say that the GMAT is a better choice for mose since the GMAT is a test of decision-making skills needed in business, where the GRE is a more general test used for non-business programs.
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by speedyb09 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:22 pm
I just took another GRE practice test, two days after the first one mentioned here. It was with Princeton Review, so I hope it is reliable!
After two days:
Quant: 155 --> 158
Verbal: 154 --> 160

This is making me think it is worth switching... I didn't even study beyond playing a vocabulary game on my phone and reviewing some geometry during my GMAT prep... is this significant enough to merit switching, or perhaps a fluke?