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by kevincanspain » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:36 pm
Read Ron's comments and you will see that you would have to be a mind-reader to realize what the author intended to say. Forget this question, make sure you understand the one in OG.
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by rockeyb » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:16 pm
tomada wrote:As I beat this beyond death...

If choice (B) is correct in the example given by Kevin, then I believe choice (D) would be the best answer for the "booming market for reality television shows" question.
Well if you see my post above I have already agreed to (D) being the correct option. But I totally agree with Ron and there is no single correct option to the "reality television shows" question . And either (D) OR (B) could be correct .
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:40 am
lunarpower wrote:
ssgmatter wrote:Out of the public's interest in the details of and conflicts in other people's lives have grown a booming market for "reality" television shows that are bringing "regular" people onto the television screen with increasing frequency.
(A) other people's lives have grown a booming market for "reality" television shows that are bringing
(B) other people's lives has grown a booming market for "reality" television shows that are bringing
(C) another person's life has grown a booming market for a "reality" television show that is bringing
(D) other people's lives has grown a booming market for "reality" television shows that is bringing
(E) other people's lives has grown a booming market for "reality" television shows that bring

i got down to D and E....please explain what is the problem with E......that bring or that is bringing...

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this is a rip-off of OG11 #116... and not a very good one. a legitimate case could be made for either (b) or (d).

here's the analysis:

1) THE SUBJECT OF "HAS/HAVE GROWN" IS "A BOOMING MARKET"
the entire cluster of words that precedes this verb is a prepositional phrase, and so can't contain the subject. therefore, this must be a reverse construction, in which the subject comes after the verb.
the subject is therefore "a booming market".

this is also the only subject that is reasonable in context -- nothing else in the sentence has "grown".)

therefore, the correct verb is "has".

simpler analogy:
on the table (is / are) two cell phones.
"on the table" isn't the subject (it's a prepositional phrase, so that's impossible). therefore, the subject, "two cell phones", FOLLOWS the verb. (the correct choice would be "are".)

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2) THERE IS INSUFFICIENT CONTEXT TO DETERMINE THE SUBJECT OF "IS/ARE BRINGING"

...aaaaaaaannnnndd this is where we start to have a problem.

in the current context, BOTH of these are perfectly reasonable interpretations:

* the market (for reality tv shows) IS bringing people onto the screen increasingly frequently;
* the tv shows themselves ARE bringing people onto the screen increasingly frequently.

they're also both grammatical, since "that" modifiers have a certain degree of freedom in their application -- unlike "which" modifiers, they aren't constrained to modifying the closest noun. (see OG DIAGNOSTIC #50, in the 11th or 12th edition, for another example of a flexible "that" modifier.)

therefore, it is impossible to tell which of these is the intended subject -- both are reasonable in context -- and, therefore, it's impossible to determine whether the verb should be singular or plural.

therefore, either (b) or (d).

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what's the source of this question?
you would think that people who are essentially copying an OG problem, and substituting different words, could at least make a problem with only one correct answer.
heh.
Hi Ron , Thanks for the reply.
As you said the which pronoun modifies the closest noun , does this mean that the which pronoun cant modify the subject of a prepositional phrase adjacent to it .
The that clause , as you said , is flexible enough to modify the subject of a prepositional phrase .Could we the same for -ed and present participle without COMMA modifers

For example : the band of monkeys that sits on the banyan tree
the that pronoun can modify the band
Could we the say the same of -ing and -ed modifiers
the group of bankers based in geneva
Does based here modify bankers or group ?
the group of musicians playing the drums
Does playing ,here, modify the group or does it modify the musicians ?
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