Reading Comprehension : Strategies ---> Reading the GMAT

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by AIM GMAT » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:30 pm
force5 wrote:@ajank- great views. Thanks for sharing.

The problem here is that i am still getting a lot of RC questions wrong besides wasting a lot of time on them. I saw a lot of students and faculty too making maps. But the problem is that i am unable to use them? when it comes to solving a question i dont even think about the map and even if i try to , i cant make a head or tail out of it.

My question is What can be done? should we use maps or not? and if yes then how? how to get back to the map that u have made and find the answer?? since map is never too good to answer any question. The map cannot have all the facts that are mentioned in the passage. hence when i want to answer a question its of no use. and i am forced to go back to the original passage. Because of this i end up wasting a lot of precious time just toggling between the passage and question.
i would really request all high scorers and in RC and faculty to put in their views and suggest how should we go about it.

Hey force , i can very well understand what you are going through , neither i am high scorer nor an expert , so pick the points that helps you leave the rest , dn't fret on the ways that are not helping you .

First of all while talking about RC , either one is naturally good at it as most of high scorers are , just my observation or one has to sharpen the saw and it will take time .I have higlighted some of the queries you have metioned , going to them one by one .You have mentioned about timing , well i would suggest to go for accuracy and then for timing . We have two issues to face at RC front that are obviously accuracy and timing , dn't try to juggle two problems at the same time . Just put on the clock and forget about it , check your accuracy by practicing some official source RC and then emphasize on timing .The similar situation was with me too , i was fretting so much on time that that my accuracy level was around 50% .

About maps , its just a tool to help in efficient performance , don't get too much influenced by the process of operating and the final output . If the process is not helping you then look for the way that helps you like rohu is doing awesome without maps , his accuracy is also good :) . I use maps to make it an active reading otherwise i read passively , i never refer back to maps while solving questions , also as suggested by many expert such as Ron , Vivian , donot fall in love with passage and details . An analogy , if you are driving through a unknown area in city , what would you do ? Remember landmarks , may even jot it down on paper . When next time you visit that area , max times you recall by what you had mapped in mind and dnt need to refer back to jotted matter . Its just the same landmarks of passage are wordds like however , since , example etc . Vivian follows a gr8 approach of writing the zest of para with "to" that is intent of author while writing passage . Ron suggests writing the views or facts that are infered not explicitly written in passage , one gr8 analogy he made and told in some post that imagine you have been given limited ink to jot notes so write down only the imp things not the one in passage , that is waste of time and ink .

Its is just my opinion from my experience , fight with RC is on .One needs to have a strategy that is personalised , because what works for A might not work for B . Donot rely on bookish strategies devise your own .

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by rohu27 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:46 pm
Just for the record :D
If the process is not helping you then look for the way that helps you like rohu is doing awesome without maps , his accuracy is also good
her accuracy

on a serious note, not using maps at times worries me whn i see that almost evryone (im yet to see one who hasnt) who scores well on RC uses maps,though im not sure if i will be able to improve my accurcy if i take maps or only increase the time i spent. to knw this i thnk i shud try this startegy on more passages first. but thn i do read quickly enough and more often than not i can go back to the detailed passge wthout much trouble whn a question demands.

so super confused abt notes part. i want the startegy to be good so that i can appraoch any RC wth the same rather thn measure my accuray in terms of no. of correct answers.

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by AIM GMAT » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:52 pm
rohu27 wrote:Just for the record :D
If the process is not helping you then look for the way that helps you like rohu is doing awesome without maps , his accuracy is also good
Hey good point dear , my mistake , i wasn't specific while addressing , even i do face the same issue . IT can be SC and CR question heh , its presumed that max people going for GMAt are guys , many people mistake me as guy too . ;)

Just for record :) .
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by rohu27 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:17 pm
AIM GMAT wrote:
rohu27 wrote:Just for the record :D
If the process is not helping you then look for the way that helps you like rohu is doing awesome without maps , his accuracy is also good
Hey good point dear , my mistake , i wasn't specific while addressing , even i do face the same issue . IT can be SC and CR question heh , its presumed that max people going for GMAt are guys , many people mistake me as guy too . ;)

Just for record :) .
oopss...i myself have done tht i guess at somepoint :D
ya i do agree guys do outnumber girls big time, so its common.

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by HSPA » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:09 am
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by AIM GMAT » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:13 am
+1 for AIM

Very surprising... I know rohu only as a good poster..AIM...Dude.. what is this..
Surprised because I took AIM more a friend than a fellow poster ... recently I thought to invite him for a drink for the help he was providing... discuss some software topics too...Took him for a champ and analogous to my cricket team captain ... First time exp for me where I took unknowingly
thats why your presonal ID says 'mint' blah blah.. I was confused initially..

I thought I joined a brotherhood.. by the amount of 'bro' all around and guessing who force can be...?

:) ............... i knew i would get such a reaction , actually i didnt wanted any biased views so i never revealed that ;) . Hey i too consider you guys as buddies .... a sort of group is created , whom i can ask any sort of question w/o any hesitation . Hey i really found your post hilarious .... force now its upto you ....

Rohu i was planning to reveal that in my debrief .... :) .

Hey guys dn't separate us .... see this is the reason for keeping the identity neutral ... yeah agree about the brotherhood ..... lot many times dude n bro .... Hey do you mean coz i m girl i dn't own that postion now which AIM GMAT owed as neutral poster .
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by HSPA » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:22 am
As AIM, you are still my captain...
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by rohu27 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:26 am
I guess AIM i spoiled ur plans abt ur debrief :D, i totally agree wth ur views.

HSPA,
as AIM said this doesnt call for any change in attitude .
anyways, all of us have a bigger picture to work on and help each other in the process.

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by force5 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:40 am
what is going on!!!

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds........Albert Einstein

Guys calm your nerves. unisex is the name of the game. from perfumes to underpants. It doesnt matter who is who. Lets work towards a more important cause and help each other..... Men and women together. Please help me to help us all. its a request. we can settle scores later.
rohu, HSPA, AIM GMAT, Target etc. If anyone doesn't want to be a part of it then we respect that too.

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by rohu27 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:00 am
force5 wrote:what is going on!!!

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds........Albert Einstein

Guys calm your nerves. unisex is the name of the game. from perfumes to underpants. It doesnt matter who is who. Lets work towards a more important cause and help each other..... Men and women together. Please help me to help us all. its a request. we can settle scores later.
rohu, HSPA, AIM GMAT, Target etc. If anyone doesn't want to be a part of it then we respect that too.

Please acknowledge your acceptance and support by sending me a message.

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force5,HSPA,
chill guys, evryhtngs fine here, i very well knw you guys would make no distinction.
so no scores or nerves here.
HSPA, tht comment was just to pull your leg, dnt take it otherwise, let me knw if u r in hyd, we sure can meet up ;)

and im sure force5 all of us still want to be part of this and help each other out.

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by force5 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:04 am
you are the guy Rohu.. great words. makes me feel so much better.

waiting for everyone to respond ... which i am sure they will.

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by AIM GMAT » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:09 am
force5 wrote:you are the guy Rohu.. great words. makes me feel so much better.

waiting for everyone to respond ... which i am sure they will.
Apart from jokes , coming back to track ....

@Force - I have replied at your post regarding the issue with maps (refer above). In case of any more queries kindly revert back . I too faced similar issues with RC , on my way to develop some hybrid strategy PLan A , PLan B and PLan C for the real test .
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by HSPA » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:11 am
I am always in...
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by force5 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:20 am
@HSPA- thanks dear.
@AIM- thanks dear i was waiting for your reply too. you are correct we need to have a clear strategy.
Rohu once told me that he was unable to use maps but was able to crack a good accuracy without it. I can assume that it still would depend on the difficulty level of the passages and reading efficiency.
i am sure there will be some like me. i can read well but im not too fast besides i also feel lost when questions are tricky and i easily fall in GMAT traps. Vivian had suggested us to use the maps. she said it will help. i am waiting for her to respond and give us a direction because i have analysed that i waste time making a map but i end up not using it at all while answering.
the plan is to start with that strategy and develop it. once we are good only then we will start solving questions.
i will PM her again.

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by sridhar.devaraj » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:08 am
Thanks for the inputs. Could you please suggest some of the reading links where we can find articles related to science, humanities...
VivianKerr wrote:@force5 Reading is definitely a learned skill that can be improved with practice. No one is born knowing how to read - we're all taught as children. :-) The more you read when you are young, the faster you become, and the more intuitive your grasp of language. The same thing applies to adults. If I wanted to become a chess master, I would have to play many, many games of chess to begin to see the the nuances in the movement of the pieces.

Here's my approach and my PASSAGE MAP template:

1. Break down the passage as you read, creating a PASSAGE MAP.
2. Rephrase the questions in simpler terms.
3. Use your passage map to predict an answer & write it down.
4. Eliminate answer choices that do not match your prediction.

If left with 2 choices, ask yourself: which best answers the specific scope of the question? does either choice contain extreme language or a subtle distortion?

PASSAGE MAP (to be filled in AS YOU READ)

Topic:
Scope:

Function of 1st P:
Function of 2nd P:
Function of 3rd P:

Author's POV:
Overall Purpose:

You can see examples of how I've applied this approach in many BTG posts. :-) Hope this helps!