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by bryan88 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:30 am
The nineteenth-century Russian composers known as The Five were united by their holding an ideal of a national music based on folk melodies and themes.

A) were united by their holding
B)had as their uniting ideal
C)united each other with
D)united behind
E)were united with

Is there am idiom here?
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by killer1387 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:41 pm
The nineteenth-century Russian composers known as The Five were united by their holding an ideal of a national music based on folk melodies and themes.

A) were united by their holding--> awkward passive
B)had as their uniting ideal--> use of "HAD" changes the meaning
C)united each other with--> fragment
D)united behind--> fragment
E)were united with--> correct (tense is same)

E is the best.

Is there am idiom here?

IMO no idiom issues its only the presence of other issues with the options.

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by patanjali.purpose » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:37 pm
bryan88 wrote:The nineteenth-century Russian composers known as The Five were united by their holding an ideal of a national music based on folk melodies and themes.

A) were united by their holding
B)had as their uniting ideal
C)united each other with
D)united behind
E)were united with

Is there am idiom here?
THE COMPOSERS WERE UNITED BY XX.

It appears XX UNITED the composers - this may or may not be the intended meaning. Lets see the options:
A - THEIR HOLDING (what is THEIR HOLDLING...do not find any mention of holding before; what does THEIR HOLDING do in the prep phrase "their holding an ideal of a national music based on folk melodies and themes"? what role does THEIR HOLDING and AN IDEAL play in the phrase....are they both nouns? If yes, why two nouns placed side-by-side without any connector)

B - AS used to describe a phrase; This changes the meaning "THE COMPOSERS HAD AS THEIR UNITING IDEAL..". Original sentence says "the composers were united by XX. Is the meaning same?

C/E - drop for using WITH (CHANGES THE MEANING JUST AS IN B). Moreover, EACH OTHER is not correct when we are talking about MORE THEN 2 COMPOSERS.

IMO D - note that ITS NOT A FRAGMENT "UNITED" IS A VERB.
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by killer1387 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:44 pm
patanjali.purpose wrote:
bryan88 wrote:The nineteenth-century Russian composers known as The Five were united by their holding an ideal of a national music based on folk melodies and themes.

D)united behind
E)were united with

IMO D - note that ITS NOT A FRAGMENT "UNITED" IS A VERB.
yeah thanx for pointing that out but then also the option D states

The nineteenth-century Russian composers known as The Five united behind an ideal of a national music based on folk melodies and themes.

This changes the meaning of the original sentence
As per original sentence the composers were united for long and the ideal was X.

but this sentence changes the meaning to --> composers were initially not united and confronting something they just decided to unite behind the ideal X.


But E keeps the original meaning intact.Hence E is best.
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by patanjali.purpose » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:31 am
killer1387 wrote:
patanjali.purpose wrote:
bryan88 wrote:The nineteenth-century Russian composers known as The Five were united by their holding an ideal of a national music based on folk melodies and themes.

D)united behind
E)were united with

IMO D - note that ITS NOT A FRAGMENT "UNITED" IS A VERB.
yeah thanx for pointing that out but then also the option D states

The nineteenth-century Russian composers known as The Five united behind an ideal of a national music based on folk melodies and themes.

This changes the meaning of the original sentence
As per original sentence the composers were united for long and the ideal was X.

but this sentence changes the meaning to --> composers were initially not united and confronting something they just decided to unite behind the ideal X.


But E keeps the original meaning intact.Hence E is best.
THE COMPOSERS WERE UNITED BY XX.

It appears XX UNITED the composers - this may or may not be the intended meaning. The meaning is that composers were united behind an ideal, not with an ideal. If say UNITED WITH AN IDEAL...it sounds as if composers and ideal were separate before!

D does not change the meaning - it gives a right meaning to original sentence but avoiding BY...and clearly showing that the composers were united for an ideal. Note, original sentence says, THE COMPOSERS WERE UNITED BY XX. It appears XX UNITED the composers - Can XX (IDEAL) UNITE COMPOSERS? choice D gives correct meaning to original sentence by avoiding any ambiguity.
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