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by armaan700+ » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:09 pm
. In assessing the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant.
(A) In assessing the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant.
(B) The question of whether the rural migrant worker is better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant in assessing the problems that they face.
(C) A question that is irrelevant in assessing the problems that rural migrant workers face is whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor.
(D) In an assessment of the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant.
(E) The question of whether the rural migrant worker is better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant in an assessment of the problems that they face.
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Re: confused

by madhur_ahuja » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:52 pm
IMO D ... OE to follow
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d is correct

by armaan700+ » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:37 pm
what is wrong with B
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Re: confused

by karmayogi » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:31 pm
(A) In assessing the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant.

(B) The question of whether the rural migrant worker is better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant in assessing the problems that they face.
>‘They’ is illogically referring to problems – the only plural in the sentence.

(C) A question that is irrelevant in assessing the problems that rural migrant workers face is whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor.
>Awkwardly written, emphasizing on the question rather than the problems faced by rural migrant workers. While original option emphasis on the problems.
(D) In an assessment of the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant.

(E) The question of whether the rural migrant worker is better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant in an assessment of the problems that they face.
> Same as B

A and D both are same except the qualifier part: “In accessing” and “In the assessment.” I would go for A, simply, because it’s pithier. Experts might have a better explanation.
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by karmayogi » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:55 pm
To find the difference between A and D, I did googling, and here is what I found:

In A, “In accessing…, the question” means the agent of action is the question, and that’s illogical. While in D - “In an assessment of the problems…, the question”, the qualifier is a noun phrase, properly qualifying the question.
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by tanviet » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:35 pm
pls, explain why C is wrong, I am very confuese, pls, help
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by viju9162 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:05 am
Answer is D.

What's wrong in C - this sentence is trying to convey two things:

1) The question X is better than Y is irrelevant
2) assessment of problems faced by rural workers

In C, the sentence is squeesed! It is saying the question is irrelevant in assessing the problems!
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by vinayakdl » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:39 am
IMO: A

"assessing the problems.." is the main idea of the sentence and hence sentence should start with this, B and E make the question more important.

also in B "they" is plural but refers to "worker"

C is awkward and wordy, "that" is not needed here

D: Changes meaning of the sentence. It says that "in the assesment"...so the assessment is complete and now we are talking about this Q whereas in original sentence it says whether one should consider this Q.

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by yogami » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:02 am
Guys guys... D has the same issue here. they can refer to both, problems or rural migrant workers. So I doubt D is right based on that logic. I am going with B. OA pls!!!
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by armaan700+ » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:17 am
OA is D , thanks for the explanation
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no grmmar mistake,why wrong

by tanviet » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:52 pm
pls, help me out, why C is wrong
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by rahulmehra13 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:12 am
Problem with C:

stylistic preference - 'the problems faced by rural migrant workers' is better than 'the problems that rural migrant workers face'

Stylistic preference:

in formal writing, the NOUN1 VERBed by the NOUN2 is preferred to the NOUN1 that the NOUN2 VERBed.
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Re: confused

by quant-master » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:18 pm
armaan700+ wrote:. In assessing the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant.

(A) In assessing the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant- implies that somebody is assessing the problem but there is no referrant to that somebody

(B) The question of whether the rural migrant worker is better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant in assessing the problems that they face - they is insiduous donno to which kind of workers it is referring to

(C) A question that is irrelevant in assessing the problems that rural migrant workers face is whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor - passive construction and awkward

(D) In an assessment of the problems faced by rural migrant workers, the question of whether they are better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant - correct

(E) The question of whether the rural migrant worker is better off materially than the urban working poor is irrelevant in an assessment of the problems that they face - same as B
imo D
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why C is wrong, Stacey, pls, help

by tanviet » Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:50 am
pls, explain why C is wrong
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Re: why C is wrong, Stacey, pls, help

by lunarpower » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:25 pm
duongthang wrote:pls, explain why C is wrong
the only thing that's actually wrong with (c) is that it contains "the problems that migrant workers face", a construction that is considered inferior, in formal writing, to "the problems faced by migrant workers".

in general, "the X that Y VERB" isn't as goot as "the X VERBed by Y".

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we are going to improve this problem soon, though (it's one of ours). it is very, very unlikely that such a subtle difference would be the only determinant of an incorrect answer choice (as it is here).
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