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by [email protected] » Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:32 pm
Which of the following procedures is always equivalent to adding 5 given numbers and then dividing the sum by 5?
I. Multiplying the 5 numbers and then finding the 5th root of the product.
II. Adding the 5 numbers, doubling the sum, and then moving the decimal point one place to the left.
III. Ordering the 5 numbers numerically and then selecting the middle number.
(A) None
(B) I only
(C) II only
(D) III only
(E) I and III

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Re: always equivalent

by Stuart@KaplanGMAT » Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:35 pm
[email protected] wrote:Which of the following procedures is always equivalent to adding 5 given numbers and then dividing the sum by 5?
I. Multiplying the 5 numbers and then finding the 5th root of the product.
II. Adding the 5 numbers, doubling the sum, and then moving the decimal point one place to the left.
III. Ordering the 5 numbers numerically and then selecting the middle number.
(A) None
(B) I only
(C) II only
(D) III only
(E) I and III

C
Easiest way to do this is going to be picking numbers. Since the question is asking us which of the following IS ALWAYS equivalen, we want to pick numbers to show that the roman numerals can give a different result, so we can eliminate that roman numeral.

On most roman numeral questions we start with the statement that appears most frequently in the choices, so let's start with (I).

Let's choose {1, 2, 3, 4, 5}

If we add them then divide by 5, we get 15/5 = 3

If we mutiply then take the 5th root, we get the 5th root of 120 which is certainly NOT = 3.

So, (I) is out: eliminate (b) and (e).

(II) and (III) are equally represented, so start with the one that seems simpler.

III. Ordering the 5 numbers numerically and then selecting the middle number.

Let's choose {1, 2, 3, 4, 6} (Remember, we're trying to choose numbers that DO NOT work out the same for both rules!)

If we take the middle number (statement III), we get 3.
If we add and divide by 5, we get 3.2

So, (III) is out: eliminate (D).

Sadly, it could still be (a) or (c), so we need to check (II).

II. Adding the 5 numbers, doubling the sum, and then moving the decimal point one place to the left.

Let's choose {1, 2, 3, 4, 6} again.

If we add, double and move the decimal, we get 3.2
If we add and divide by 5, we get 3.2

hmm.. let's think about this for a sec..

Moving the decimal to the left is the same as dividing by 10.
Doubling and dividing by 10 is the same as dividing by 5.

So, "Adding the 5 numbers, doubling the sum, and then moving the decimal point one place to the left" is actually the same as "adding 5 given numbers and then dividing the sum by 5".

Choose (C) II only.
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by ronniecoleman » Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:42 pm
Which of the following procedures is always equivalent to adding 5 given numbers and then dividing the sum by 5?
I. Multiplying the 5 numbers and then finding the 5th root of the product.
II. Adding the 5 numbers, doubling the sum, and then moving the decimal point one place to the left.
III. Ordering the 5 numbers numerically and then selecting the middle number.
(A) None
(B) I only
(C) II only
(D) III only
(E) I and III


1: out as take 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
1+2+3+4+5 = 15
15/5 = 3

from 1 (1*2*3*4*5) fifth root != 3

3. let us take
1, 2, ,3 1000000000000000000, 10000000000000000000000000 :shock:
so middle number is 3
but the mean would be greater than 3 OUT ::

2.
add the numbers
let nos are
a , b , c ,d ,c , e
( a+b+c+e+d)*2

now moving one decimal left is same as dividing by 10
so
( a+b+c+e+d)*2 /10 =( a+b+c+e+d)/ 5

which is same as above

IMO C
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by brb588 » Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:43 pm
Let's think about what this question is saying. Let the sum of the numbers equal x. You're asked what x/5 equals.

I started with III as it appears in the most answer choices. Eying this tells me that this is not necessarily equal to x/5. For example in {-67790, -1, 0, 1, 3525} = 0, which ≠ x/5. This leaves A, B, and C.

Then I go to answer I. I also can tell this isn't right. If the set has 0 in it, the fifth root has to equal 0 which has to equal x/5, and that can obviously not be true, as in the set {0, 1, 2, 3, 4}. I now have A and C.

Answer II is tricky. It says add all the numbers (we've already made this x), double it, and move the decimal one to the left. Translated this is

2x/10

... as doubling the sum means "2x" and moving the decimal point one place to the left means to divide by 10. 2x/10 is equal to x/5. BINGO!

The answer is C.

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by vittalgmat » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:39 am
ronniecoleman wrote:Which of the following procedures is always equivalent to adding 5 given numbers and then dividing the sum by 5?
I. Multiplying the 5 numbers and then finding the 5th root of the product.
II. Adding the 5 numbers, doubling the sum, and then moving the decimal point one place to the left.
III. Ordering the 5 numbers numerically and then selecting the middle number.
(A) None
(B) I only
(C) II only
(D) III only
(E) I and III


1: out as take 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
1+2+3+4+5 = 15
15/5 = 3

from 1 (1*2*3*4*5) fifth root != 3

3. let us take
1, 2, ,3 1000000000000000000, 10000000000000000000000000 :shock:
so middle number is 3
but the mean would be greater than 3 OUT ::

2.
add the numbers
let nos are
a , b , c ,d ,c , e
( a+b+c+e+d)*2

now moving one decimal left is same as dividing by 10
so
( a+b+c+e+d)*2 /10 =( a+b+c+e+d)/ 5

which is same as above

IMO C

Hey Ronnie,
U have a nice way of representing huge numbers... with so many 0s.
I appreciate that. And the soln sticks in my head better due to the dramatic effect.