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Slightly Bitter Reapplicant

by thermon » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:39 pm
Hello Consultants.

I applied to business school last year and wasn't accepted to any of the schools I chose. I wasn't even interviewed. I'd like some advice as a reapplicant. I'm thinking about hiring a consultant for the next time around, but the expenses are a big consideration.

First some basic info about me. I'm an American applicant applying to U.S. schools. Following are some of what I thought were the strengths of my applications:
  • - 760 GMAT; 99 percentile verbal, 82 percentile quantitative, 5.5 AWA. Only took the test once in my life, and it's a fresh score - from only a few months before the application submissions
    - 3.9 undergraduate GPA
    - Non-traditional applicant, degree in the fine arts
    - Because of taking college classes in high school, I have nearly two years' worth of extra coursework beyond my degree, including challenging quantitative and science courses
    - 4 years + solid business experience, all overseas, in which I partnered directly with officials from the Chinese central government and had many Fortune 500 companies as clients with whom I worked to improve corporate responsibility and sustainability in business operations
    - Learned to speak, read and write a foreign language to fluency as an adult
After reflection, these are the possible weaknesses in my applications that I identified:
  • - The essays were rushed, maybe without a crystal clear description of what I want to do after graduating. I'm generally a good writer, but I felt awkward with the application topics so maybe not my best writing.
    - I have many employment gaps, and have done many different kinds of work, with some years of not-so-meaningful employment
    - I had been unemployed for just over 1 year at the time of application.
    - I am a bit old, already in my 30s. My undergraduate degree is ten years old.
    - Non-traditional applicant, degree in fine arts (*I can't tell if this is bad or good)
    - Perhaps some problems with my recommendations. I was generally quite independent at work; my direct boss was always based in another office or even another continent. And I generally had a little contact with a lot of clients, rather than close relationships with only a few clients - so it was challenging to find people who knew me very well.


So here are the questions I am mulling over, I'd love to get some opinions:
  • - I believe I can reasonably aim for the top of the top business schools. Am I wrong?
    - I never thought I'd need to retake the GMAT with a 760, but now I'm wondering. I was disappointed with my quant score, and I know I can do better. Is it possible that the admissions committees judged me to have an inflated score because I 'got lucky' on the verbal section? (That's not the case anyway, as scores from practice tests match my final score)
    - I was fully expecting to start grad school this fall, so did not seek serious employment this year. Will it be much worse for an application to have 2 years of current unemployment as opposed to one? I do have some volunteering and earned some non-academic professional credentials to show for the year.
    - Suppose I do take a job in the upcoming application season. Will it look bad (i.e. count against my chances of admission) if going to school will mean I have to resign after less than a year in my new position?
    - Does it either help or hurt one's chances of admission to be a joint degree applicant, provided there's an adequately compelling justification for the second degree? I applied for some joint MBA/environment-related masters programs.
    - I've seen some warnings against not disclosing some previous employment positions. These left me confused. At times, I've taken jobs for the cash that I never intended to be serious stepping stones in my career. And being out of college longer than the average applicant gives me more pressure to squish every experience into a 2-page resume, or the 4 or so employment spaces on the application. I feel that dedicating any space to these jobs detracts from my narrative and the focus of the brand I'm trying to project. Certainly a lot of b-school applicants have waited tables or something. How should I understand what the appropriate level of disclosure should be?
    - Last but not least, can you, as a consultant, get me in if I hire you? It's not enough for me to improve my chances; I need to get in.
Thanks a lot.
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by Lisa Anderson » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:57 pm
Dear thermon,

To answer your questions:

- I believe I can reasonably aim for the top of the top business schools. Am I wrong?
- I never thought I'd need to retake the GMAT with a 760, but now I'm wondering. I was disappointed with my quant score, and I know I can do better. Is it possible that the admissions committees judged me to have an inflated score because I 'got lucky' on the verbal section? (That's not the case anyway, as scores from practice tests match my final score)

I do not think you are wrong in applying to some top programs; however, there are no guarantees in MBA admissions for any profile. I don't think your GMAT score was the issue as your 760 is an exceptional score. Based on your background, it is reasonable and expected that your verbal score would be high. The fact that your quantitative score is in the 82nd percentile is an advantage for you as it demonstrates your aptitude for business school.

- I was fully expecting to start grad school this fall, so did not seek serious employment this year. Will it be much worse for an application to have 2 years of current unemployment as opposed to one? I do have some volunteering and earned some non-academic professional credentials to show for the year.
- Suppose I do take a job in the upcoming application season. Will it look bad (i.e. count against my chances of admission) if going to school will mean I have to resign after less than a year in my new position?

Being unemployed for a year before you applied might have been one of the concerns the admissions committees had with your applications. Continuing to be unemployed will hurt any applications for this year. You need to find employment of some kind as soon as possible, preferably professional in nature and related to your future goals. If it is a long-term internship, contract work, or through a temp agency, that is fine--but you have to do something and have a plan.

- Does it either help or hurt one's chances of admission to be a joint degree applicant, provided there's an adequately compelling justification for the second degree? I applied for some joint MBA/environment-related masters programs.
Being a joint degree applicant does not help or hurt your chances on its own. However, if you do not convey your reasoning for the joint degree effectively and show how it is an integral piece to your career plan, then it can hurt you as the admissions committee might believe you don't know why you are applying.

- I've seen some warnings against not disclosing some previous employment positions. These left me confused. At times, I've taken jobs for the cash that I never intended to be serious stepping stones in my career. And being out of college longer than the average applicant gives me more pressure to squish every experience into a 2-page resume, or the 4 or so employment spaces on the application. I feel that dedicating any space to these jobs detracts from my narrative and the focus of the brand I'm trying to project. Certainly a lot of b-school applicants have waited tables or something. How should I understand what the appropriate level of disclosure should be?

A good question and one that cannot be answered accurately without more information. Basically, you do not want to show any holes in your employment since college. However, for jobs that are not integral to your career plan or you did not hold for a long period of time, you probably don't need to take up as much space on the resume. Working with a consultant on your resume would probably be helpful for you as I suspect your professional track record and future goals were probably issues with the admissions committees.

- Last but not least, can you, as a consultant, get me in if I hire you? It's not enough for me to improve my chances; I need to get in.

As stated previously, there are no guarantees in MBA admissions. Any consultant that says he/she can "get you in" is lying as there are no magic formulas or words that result in admission offers. When you have a non-traditional background, a large weakness to overcome, or need help in presenting your background effectively, consultants can be worth the investment. If you believe your essays were not effective, then having an objective outsider that understands what admissions committees look for in the essay responses can make a big difference. Since you did not receive any interview invitations, it is likely your essays, resume and recommendations presented neither your background nor your rationale for an MBA effectively.

Good luck,
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by Cindy Tokumitsu » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:16 am
Hello, Thermon,

First, I second Lisa Anderson's various points. A few additional thoughts (in no order of priority):

- You mention rushed essays. The most common reason well qualified applicants are rejected (most rejected applicants to top programs are qualified, often well qualified) is a less than stellar presentation. It can doom your candidacy, considering you are competing with the best in the world. It needs to be more than competent, usually -- it needs to come together in a way that distinguishes you and presents a coherent and compelling message.

- Your age, while not a disqualification, makes it a bit harder, and it will be even more so the longer you wait to reapply. You must make a clear case for why you need a FT MBA and also for how you will get employed post-MBA (even if the adcoms don't want to care about age, they know the recruiters will often be looking for people in a certain age range).

- Your experience sounds interesting, but the gaps are a problem. And how are (a) your leadership and (b) your advancement relative to accomplished peers? These should both be strong to make you attractive to top programs.

I hope this is helpful.

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by Kaneisha Grayson » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:27 pm
Hi Thermon,

I'm weighing in because you emailed me twice :) and because I want to say (with frankness and respect) some things that the other consultants have not said. (By the way, I agree with everything they have said thus far.) Not getting into any of your schools really sucks, and I'm sure you're looking for answers, so I will provide a few of my thoughts.

Considering that I only work with nontraditional students, I've developed something of an intuition for the pain points in my reapplying clients' candidacy--especially for the people who are dumbfounded as to why they didn't get in. These blind spots usually occur because you are surrounded by either "yes men" (people who always tell you that everything you're doing is great), shruggers (people who are happy that you have certain goals but have no idea how to help you), or haters (people who you think support you but are actually undermining your candidacy). More on this later.

My Thoughts:

1. Forget any sense of entitlement about which schools you "should" be able to get into. If going to business school is very important to you, apply to a range of schools (only ones you'd be excited to attend). It's better to be a big fish in a little pond than a big fish flopping around on land, wondering how he ended up not invited to the pool party (terrible, terrible analogy, but you know what I mean).

2. DO NOT take the GMAT again. Your score is great and you will be wasting valuable time you could be spending getting a job or working on your essays.

3. It sounds like not only did you not seek serious employment this year in expectation of going to grad school, you didn't seek (or rather, secure) ANY employment. Regardless of how many months you'll be able to stay, it's time to get serious about getting a professional job related to your intended career path. If that isn't possible, you need to seek out a volunteer position where you can really get your hands dirty and have an impact (i.e. accomplishments you can write about, talk about in your interview, and actually learn from) I'm glad that you do have some volunteering and academic accomplishments to show for the year, but it's time to buckle down and get serious about putting that 760/3.9 brain to use.

4. I love joint degrees! But yes, you have to have a clear reason for why you need both degrees, so you don't just look like you're shooting in the dark, hoping you hit something.

5. One thing that stood out to me is that you didn't mention how you ended up no longer working at your great job. If I'm wondering, the Adcom is too. Were you fired? If so, why? Laid off? Did you leave? If so, why, and what exactly was your plan of action upon leaving? Did you address this in your essays?

6. Combine consecutive non-professional jobs under one heading, and then explain any significant accomplishments achieved there. Don't try and make it look like something it's not; just be efficient in communicating those experiences. For example, 2-4 positions tutoring kids could all go under "Freelance Academic Tutoring" or something like that. Don't try to hide these jobs. Weave them into the story. Hey - you're the guy who is willing to humble himself and take a job to pay his bills--even if it isn't a dream job. TURN APPARENT WEAKNESSES INTO ASSETS. Never lie or embellish--but find the positive side to everything and demonstrate your resiliency and perseverance.

7. I can't guarantee that I'll get you in, but I'm proud of my track record with the misfits--which is what I'm sure you're feeling like right now. If you decide to work with a consultant, be open to being coached and led, receiving feedback, and having your mind changed.

8. I don't think your recommenders had your back (they may fall into the aforementioned "hater" category or perhaps the "shruggers"). You said yourself that you were very independent and had no deep relationships with your clients or supervisors. This can really hurt an applicant that the Adcom is already feeling iffy about. If you get a new job, volunteer and really make an impact, you'll have at least two new sources for recommendations.

9. Don't be bitter. It will come through in your essays, and repel the Adcom. Be hopeful, positive, determined, fearless, steadfast, open-minded, and excited. But don't be bitter.

You can do it!

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by thermon » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:55 am
Thanks all for your comments. They are really very helpful.