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by LevelOne » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:33 pm
hi guys,

it seems that I'm missing a few basic rules here. can you give me a quick solution for the problem as per the attachment, pls?

thanks
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by shibal » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:14 pm
OA 20

it's kind of long....
to make it wasier get the sq root of 80 and equal it to a variable x
the multiplication will resuly 9+u+2(9+u)^2*(9-u)^2+9-u
multiply the sq roots and solve u i'll get 18+2(81-u^2)^2
u=80^2, so plug that in. i'll cross the sq root, since u is squared: 18+2(81-80)^2
81-80=1 and the sq toor is one. 18+2*1 = 20....
it's a kind of long and boring calculation, but i hope it
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by ssmiles08 » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:35 pm
using variables here IMO is the best approach.

9 = x, 80 = y

so you have:

{[x+sqrt(y)]^(1/2) + [x-sqrt(y)]^(1/2)}^2

{[x+sqrt(y)]^(1/2) + [x-sqrt(y)]^(1/2)}* {[x+sqrt(y)]^(1/2) + [x-sqrt(y)]^(1/2)}

x + sqrt(y) +{2*[x+sqrt(y)]^(1/2) * [x-sqrt(y)]^(1/2)} +x - sqrt(y)

2{x + [x+sqrt(y)]^(1/2) * [x-sqrt(y)]^(1/2)}

[x+sqrt(y)]^(1/2) * [x-sqrt(y)]^(1/2) is the same thing as sqrt(a)*sqrt(b) = sqrt(a*b)

so you would produce 2*[sqrt(x^2 -y) + x] by simplifying everything.

plug in your numbers now: 2*[sqrt(81-80) + 9]

2*(1+9) = 2*10 = 20

so the answer is E.

hope all that made sense to you.

Also one more thing to notice; it seemed like you approximated your values by taking sqrt(80) ~ 9 which doesn't work b/c notice how the question avoids asking the answer in "approximately" form.

if they ask you the answer in "approximated value", then you can round off, but if the word approximate is deceptively missing, they are asking you for the exact value.
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by ghacker » Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:31 pm
This is very easy

We use a formula from basic Algebra

A^2 - B^2 =(A+B)(A-B) ------------>(I)

to solve this sum

We know that ( A+B)^2 = A^2+2AB+B^2

Take the first part as A and the second one as B

If u observe closely you see that the only difference between A and B is the negative sign in B


So (A+B)^2 BECOMES A^2+B^2 +2AB

A^2+B^2 = 18 ( "-" SIGN WILL CANCEL OFF SQRT 80)

WHAT IS 2AB , USING (I) WE SEE THAT IT IS 81-80 =1

SO THE ANSWER IS 18+2 = 20
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by LevelOne » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:05 am
OA is E, all solutions are useful and particularly the shortcut. thanks
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by LevelOne » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:06 am
OA is E, all solutions are useful and particularly the shortcut. thanks
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