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gerunds can be used as noun?

by maihuna » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:43 am
According to anthropologists, the use of human language covers a wide spectrum from practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy within a social group.
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishing of hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to hierarchy established
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
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Re: gerunds can be used as noun?

by piyush_nitt » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:58 am
maihuna wrote:According to anthropologists, the use of human language covers a wide spectrum from practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy within a social group.
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishing of hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to hierarchy established
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
Can you please make sure that you underline the trouble part of sentence?

Yes gerunds can be used as noun.

Running in the park after dark can be dangerous.

here running is a gerund acting as a noun.

are you sure above statement is from valid source?

I believe sentence should adhere to idiom between X and Y.
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by maihuna » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:08 am
Mr Piyush, I first option is always the underlined part? Hope you have not missed that.

Coming back to your between, like every animal in in Kabul is not Horse, all between doesn't command an AND.

Have you noticed the use of BETWEEN and actual phrased checked?

The phrased put for check is: Spectrum from practical communication to establishing hierarchy.

The between only modify PEOPLE and its correct, as when you communicate it is between two people not among three people, hope your eyes are open now?

Before you ask another Q whyn't among the above clarifies, when meaning is two only though the word used represents more than two, uses of between and accordingly among when the wrod being tested represents only two but meaning is more than two perfectly accepted.

You may say communication also involves many, like the conferences you will be doing, but still it is 5000% to correct that communication happens between two, point to point, sort of..

Coming back to uses of gerund as noun and use of gerund to replace noun is slightly different: What will u say:

The splitting apart of continents
Or
Splitting apart of continents.

When used n words like: List of action where all others are proper noun, except this word splitting?
Splitting here is gerund only in both cases, then why the use of the in one and only the gerund oin other.
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Re: gerunds can be used as noun?

by logitech » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:12 am
maihuna wrote:According to anthropologists, the use of human language covers a wide spectrum from practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy within a social group.
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishing of hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to hierarchy established
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
SERIOUSLY WHAT IS THIS ? :evil:
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Re: gerunds can be used as noun?

by maihuna » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:19 am
Here it goes Logitech:

According to anthropologists, the use of human language covers a wide spectrum from practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy within a social group.

A:practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy
B:communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
C:practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishing of hierarchy
D:communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to hierarchy established
E:practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
logitech wrote:
maihuna wrote:According to anthropologists, the use of human language covers a wide spectrum from practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy within a social group.
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishing of hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to hierarchy established
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy

SERIOUSLY WHAT IS THIS ? :evil:
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Re: gerunds can be used as noun?

by logitech » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:21 am
maihuna wrote:Here it goes Logitech:

According to anthropologists, the use of human language covers a wide spectrum from practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy within a social group.

A:practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy
B:communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
C:practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishing of hierarchy
D:communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to hierarchy established
E:practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
logitech wrote:
maihuna wrote:According to anthropologists, the use of human language covers a wide spectrum from practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy within a social group.
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishing of hierarchy
communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to hierarchy established
practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy

SERIOUSLY WHAT IS THIS ? :evil:
Thank you.
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by logitech » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:30 am
According to anthropologists, the use of human language covers a wide spectrum from practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy within a social group.

FROM X to Y

Simple gerunds need to be parallel with SIMPLE gerunds

ACTION NOUNS need to be parallel with COMPLEX gerunds

A) practical communication between people engaged in the same task to establishing hierarchy

B) communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy

C) practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishing of hierarchy

D) communicating practically between people engaging in the same task to hierarchy established - Awkward

E)practical communication between people engaged in the same task to the establishment of hierarchy

I chose E over C on the account that action noun is more concise than a gerund. ( I might be wrong here )
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by maihuna » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:40 am
The original sentence contains the construction "from X to Y," which requires parallelism between X and Y. In this case, X is the regular noun phrase "practical communication," but Y is the gerund "establishing". (A gerund is an "-ing" form of a verb acting as a noun, such as in the sentence "Swimming is fun.") We need to find a choice that puts both X and Y in the same grammatical form.

Note that the difference between "people engaged in the same task" and "people engaging in the same task" is minimal. Both forms are valid.

(C) Adding the word "the" in front of Y here doesn't change the fact that the regular noun phrase is not parallel to the gerund.

(E) CORRECT. This choice correctly changes Y to a regular noun phrase "the establishment of hierarchy," so that this phrase is now parallel to X, "practical communication." It is not necessary that both phrases have the article "the."
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