"Perceived as" vs. "Perceived to be"

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ogbeni: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 186; Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:50 pm; Thanked: 10 times; Followed by:1 members

"Perceived as" vs. "Perceived to be"

by ogbeni » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:57 am

I just read a GMAT Prep 1 RC passage with "perceived to be". Should I encounter the word perceive in a SC question, what is the proper application? Is it
1. Perceived as or
2. Perceived to be

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by heshamelaziry » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:18 pm

One tip is to avoid "to be" and "being". I would go with "AS"

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by capnx » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:41 pm

according to webster, both usages are accepted
https://books.google.com/books?id=2yJusP ... q=&f=false

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by heshamelaziry » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:16 pm

I have come across things that are correct too, but GMAT prefers certain styles and they are in love with the word "AS". There is no other explanation.

I don't remember other examples now, otherwise I would give a few.

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by ogbeni » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:52 pm

Guys thanks for chiming in....but seriously a representative from GMAC needs to be here to answer some of our questions!!!!

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by heshamelaziry » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:56 pm

For example, they say never use "hopefully" although you can use any word like "probably", "historically", ....etc ????????

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by heshamelaziry » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:59 pm

I don't know how to have a GMAC rep her but sounds interesting. I know some people know how to send a PM to "STACY", Manhattan offcical, but I don't know how. I don't even know what a PM is.

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by grockit_andrea » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:24 am

Yeah, honestly they're both fine as far as I know. I wish I could be more help here, but the only thing I can say is that if they both appeared in SC choices, there would probably be some other grammatical discrepancy there to rule one of them out. Sorry.

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by Stacey Koprince » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:53 am

Hi, received a PM asking me to respond. I have been traveling and haven't been on BTG for several weeks. Sorry I haven't replied yet.

Both idioms are allowed in general usage, but I'm not sure what the official GMAT stance is. I'm looking into it.

I will mention that, just because something is used in CR or RC does NOT mean that it would be okay for SC. Annoyingly, we've found multiple instances of idioms that were called "incorrect" in an SC explanation nevertheless used in RC and CR passages.

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by Stacey Koprince » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:09 pm

Talked to our SC guru. He hasn't done a thorough survey of OG12 on this particular issue, but he does know that OG11 did not contain a single problem that hinged on this issue. Further, while he thinks there are some subtle differences in accepted usage between the two (in terms of when to use each), he thinks the differences are so subtle that they would not be tested on the GMAT.