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by GmatKiss » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:35 am
Helen's mother was recovering at the hospital when she suffered a second fatal attack.

A.
B. but then suffered a second fatal attack
C. when she suffered a second and fatal attack
D. and then suffered a second fatal attack
E. when a second fatal attack was suffered
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by nzt » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:02 am
a second fatal attack is incorrect, this is similar to saying someone died twice

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by GmatKiss » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:31 am
Are you comparing with the real world!

Is there no one who has received two fatal attacks, and does a fatal attack guarantees death?

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by chetansharma » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:59 am
I guess the answer is A

But I could not give a proper explanation for my answer. All I can say is that from POE, I boiled down to A and B and A seems more likely to be the answer.

What is OA?

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by sl750 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:14 am
I agree with nzt. This is a classic example of a meaningless sentence.
The word fatal in this context connotes death. So a second fatal attack would imply, the person was mysteriously brought back to life only to die again

In this example, however, all choices maintain the usage of the phrase. You'll not see something like this on the GMAT

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by GmatKiss » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:45 am
sl750 wrote:I agree with nzt. This is a classic example of a meaningless sentence.
The word fatal in this context connotes death. So a second fatal attack would imply, the person was mysteriously brought back to life only to die again

In this example, however, all choices maintain the usage of the phrase. You'll not see something like this on the GMAT
Time and time again, i hear from experts that do not compare or take into account the things which happen in real life.

So the GMAC does not have a question about fiction, which is mysterious. Most of the RC's and the OEs' are mysterious :lol:

Please clarify!!

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by sl750 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:08 am
GmatKiss wrote:
sl750 wrote:I agree with nzt. This is a classic example of a meaningless sentence.
The word fatal in this context connotes death. So a second fatal attack would imply, the person was mysteriously brought back to life only to die again

In this example, however, all choices maintain the usage of the phrase. You'll not see something like this on the GMAT
Time and time again, i hear from experts that do not compare or take into account the things which happen in real life.

So the GMAC does not have a question about fiction, which is mysterious. Most of the RC's and the OEs' are mysterious :lol:

Please clarify!!

TIA,
GK
You may have read about the new changes introduced to the SC section of the GMAT. They are giving importance not just to the grammar but to the meaning as well.

Bringing in outside information is in reference to CR and RC arguments that has nothing to do with the meaning clarity

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by GmatKiss » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:03 pm
Yes, i agree that meaning plays an important role.

My question is one, "Can a human survive a fatal heart attack?"
Does fatal attack mean, "attack which does/will kill a person". Can no body survive a fatal heart attack!

I have no clue :( , for none from my family/friends had an attack :)

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by ollapodrida » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:51 pm
Fatal as used here means causing death. I'll have to go with C.

Second and fatal implies the second attack was the fatal one. If the first attack had been fatal, she would not have returned to the hospital except maybe for autopsy.

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by crick » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:26 pm
+1 for C. You can't have two fatal attacks. This question is similar to an OG question.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/sc-some-buildings-56040.html

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by GmatKiss » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:57 pm
crick wrote:+1 for C. You can't have two fatal attacks. This question is similar to an OG question.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/sc-some-buildings-56040.html

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I do not agree with the similarity. The question which you shared clearly has two actions which cannot take place together!

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by sumitpune » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:43 am
IMO A

Two actions are here.
1. progressive past and simple past.

we use progressive past to denote something is ongoing/ progressive in past , when some other past event occurs.

AS
I was eating cake , when you came.

OG explanation for past progressive
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Past progressive: Used with was or were, this verb form describes something that was happening
when another action occurred.
Example:
Correct: "The student was studying when the fire alarm rang." "They were studying when the fire
broke out."
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When is very important in this case.

by the same reasoning i will go for A.

PS:
to me "second fatal attack" and "second and fatal attack" both look OK.
2nd mean 2nd attack was fatal
1st mean both were fatal

I will go with A that is preserving the meaning of original sentence.

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