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by gmat740 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:22 am
Hello.
I have already done OG-11 for Maths, but I think the OG-11 is having quiet sub-standard questions. Its god for revision but not for practise at the begining.
I am personally doing :

Manhattan SC
CR bible from PowerScore
LSAT papers.

And there are other materials which I have not yet started

I heard SC bible is also a good book, But since I am not done with my CR and SC so I will do that latter

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by VP_Jim » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:26 am
I am living proof that one can score really well with only the OG. The key to studying out of the OG is to remember that most of the explanations in that book are pretty poor. The way I studied for the GMAT was to pick apart every problem/question in the OG, explaining it in my own words or thinking of some "trick" or "shortcut" way to solve the math. Remember that when purchasing books, quality is better than quantity.

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by TedCornell » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:57 pm
I would agree with Jim. The OG alone is a strong practice tool, but has 3 glaring weaknesses:

1) Explanations are poor. It doesn't teach concepts, but merely states facts (often by making big leaps).

2) For higher scorers who aim 710+ scores, the OG has too few really challenging questions. This is why people resort to studying out of LSAT papers for example.

3) Questions are not arranged by topic so it's difficult to devise an organized study program whereas you would focus on a specific topic until you master it before moving on. It's not easy to track how you're doing by topic (I don't mean question type)

As I pointed out in my debrief (www.tinyurl.com/gmatpost) I have used the OG Companion from gmatfix specifically to address those weaknesses. It provides more detailed explanations to the OG11 quant questions so that helped me break the questions down to their essential parts. The Companion also has several advanced timed drills for high scorers, and it catalogs each question by topic and subtopic (for example, Geometry --> Triangles) and by difficulty level (200-400, 400-500, 500-600...)

There are of course other resources out there to help you address the weaknesses of the OG. MGMAT has a "challenge questions archive" and Kaplan has an 800 book (don't remember exact title). I would tell you more, but I don't know much about them.

In my opinion the bottom line is that the OG is necessary, but not sufficient to execute a thorough GMAT curriculum. It offers great practice, but doesn't teach that well.

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by lunarpower » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:47 pm
the basic idea is this: if you're just doing problem after problem after problem, then you are studying in entirely the wrong way.

never forget this: you're never again going to see the problems on which you're practicing.
all you're going to see is problems that SHARE COMMON ELEMENTS with those problems.

therefore, it's of the utmost importance to learn GENERAL LESSONS from the problems you're studying - lessons that are general enough to be extrapolated to other problems.
i call these "takeaways".

right here is a post in which i talk more about the concept of general lessons / takeaways. make sure that you take this advice to heart, because, essentially, that's the only reason to study any practice problem, ever.
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by lunarpower » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:50 pm
but, yes, i'm glad that you wrote "studying every concept in the OG", instead of writing "studying every problem in the OG".

the difference is immense, and "studying every concept" is the version that's on the correct side of the fence.

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in any case, as many of us have pointed out on other threads, IF you're only going to study from one set of materials, then, hands down, the official guides should be those materials.
especially if you're primarily studying quant.
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