Radical of positive integer X

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Radical of positive integer X

by gander123 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:42 pm
Hi guys,

I recently reviewed the following question but still haven't quite understood the answer explanation:

"If x is a positiv integer, is √x an integer?"

(1) √4*x is an integer.
(2) √3*x is not an integer.

Answer: Only statement (1) is sufficient --> A.

My question:

First of all, I fully understand, why statement (2) is not sufficient alone. Therefore, I will leave that part out here.

However, I am really struggling with the argumentation for statement (1):

"It is given that √4*x = n, or 4*x = n², for some positive integer n. Since 4*x is the square of an integer, it follows that in the prime factorization of 4*x, each distinct prime factor is repeated an even number of times. (How do you know this??). Therefore, the same must be true for the prime factorization of x, since the prime factorization of x only differs from the prime factorization of 4*x by two factors of 2, and hence by an even number of factors of 2;SUFFICIENT"

Can anyone out there help me out with an applied answer ?

My assumption:

4*x is a squared integer, and a squared integer is always an integer. Due to the theory (presented in GMAT Math Review) of integers, one knows that every integer can be expressed as the product of (an odd or even number) of prime factors. Since we have here two times a number of odd or even prime factors (for n²) the number of prime factors has to be even for the whole expression 4*x anyway?!
Am I getting it the right way ?

I'd appreciate your detailed and structured responses.

Kind regards,

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by Whitney Garner » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:12 pm
gander123 wrote: "It is given that √4*x = n, or 4*x = n², for some positive integer n. Since 4*x is the square of an integer, it follows that in the prime factorization of 4*x, each distinct prime factor is repeated an even number of times. (How do you know this??). Therefore, the same must be true for the prime factorization of x, since the prime factorization of x only differs from the prime factorization of 4*x by two factors of 2, and hence by an even number of factors of 2;SUFFICIENT"

Can anyone out there help me out with an applied answer ?
Hi gander123!

While it is true that any perfect square has each prime factors repeated an even number of times, there is a MUCH easier way to talk about it (the way it is explained it really confusing...

Okay, so what they mean is that perfect squares have perfectly paired factors. Try a few examples:

9 = 3x3
4 = 2x2
36 = 2x2x3x3 or equivalently 2x3 x 2x3

I wrote 36 out the second way to show you WHY perfect squares have factors in perfect pairs - because a perfect square comes from the product of 2 identical integers - so the factors of each of those integers will show up twice!

So basically, they are trying to tell you that if 4x = (Int)^2, then when we factor 4x down to its primes, we will have even numbers of everything...

So 4x=2*2*x (since we don't know what is in x).

That means that x must also have perfect pairs of factors because the two 2s are already paired up!

Now, we can think of this problem "logically" as well... how can sqrt(4x) be an integer, under what cases?

Well, let's start with the case that x=perfect square (the more obvious one). Then we can see that
sqrt(4x) = sqrt(4)*sqrt(x) = 2*(Int) = Integer!

But could we make the sqrt(4x) be an integer WITHOUT letting x be a perfect square? Well, using the equation above, if I make x any integer that is NOT a perfect square, when I pull the 4 out of the root, then something of the x will always be left behind, and therefore the entire expression won't be an integer. I need to think harder...

Well, what if x was a number that canceled with the 4 in some way, leaving a perfect square behind - so maybe a number divided by 4, like 9/4. If I take 4*(9/4) = 9 and the square root of that would totally be an integer! BUT WAIT!! I found a way out, but I broke a rule - the question stem said that x was an integer!! So I cannot find a way to make x an integer without also making it a perfect square!

QUICK NOTE on your logic:
You are right at if 4x=(Int)^2, then 4x=Int, but what does that say about x? Well, it says that x=(Int)/4, and we don't know that ALL integers divided by 4 will be integers when we're done - 16/4 Yes, 9/4, NO!

Hope this helps!
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by gander123 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:27 am
Hi Whit,

Thanks indeed for your profound answer =)

Taken together what you have said on statement (1) one can basically say :

"We can only let sqrt(4*x)= (INT) if (and only if), x stands for a perfect square. All other values for x would violate the first statement. Then, since x has to be a perfect square, sqrt(x) also has to be an integer"

I think I mastered the question, thanks to your nice answer.

Many thanks again!! Best answer I have received so far in my short history here ;)

cheers ![/b]