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OG Q 62 American Indian Water Rights

by mundasingh123 » Mon May 30, 2011 3:34 am
In Winters v. United States (1908), the Supreme
Court held that the right to use waters fl owing through
or adjacent to the Fort Belknap Indian Reservation
was reserved to American Indians by the treaty
establishing the reservation. Although this treaty did
not mention water rights, the Court ruled that the
federal government, when it created the reservation,
intended to deal fairly with American Indians by
reserving for them the waters without which their
lands would have been useless. Later decisions, citing
Winters, established that courts can fi nd federal rights
to reserve water for particular purposes if (1) the land
in question lies within an enclave under exclusive
federal jurisdiction, (2) the land has been formally
withdrawn from federal public lands-i.e., withdrawn
from the stock of federal lands available for private
use under federal land use laws-and set aside or
reserved, and (3) the circumstances reveal the
government intended to reserve water as well as land
when establishing the reservation.
Some American Indian tribes have also established
water rights through the courts based on their
traditional diversion and use of certain waters prior to
the United States' acquisition of sovereignty. For
example, the Rio Grande pueblos already existed when
the United States acquired sovereignty over New
Mexico in 1848. Although they at that time became
part of the United States, the pueblo lands never
formally constituted a part of federal public lands; in
any event, no treaty, statute, or executive order has
ever designated or withdrawn the pueblos from public
lands as American Indian reservations. This fact,
however, has not barred application of the Winters
doctrine. What constitutes an American Indian
reservation is a question of practice, not of legal
defi nition, and the pueblos have always been treated
as reservations by the United States. This pragmatic
approach is buttressed by Arizona v. California (1963),
wherein the Supreme Court indicated that the manner
in which any type of federal reservation is created
does not affect the application to it of the Winters
doctrine. Therefore, the reserved water rights of
Pueblo Indians have priority over other citizens' water
rights as of 1848, the year in which pueblos must be
considered to have become reservations.

62. The primary purpose of the passage is to
(A) trace the development of laws establishing
American Indian reservations
(B) explain the legal bases for the water rights of
American Indian tribes
(C) question the legal criteria often used to
determine the water rights of American Indian
tribes
(D) discuss evidence establishing the earliest date
at which the federal government recognized the
water rights of American Indians
(E) point out a legal distinction between different
types of American Indian reservations
Main idea
Th is question requires recognizing the main topic
of the passage, which is about the establishment
of water rights on American Indian lands. Its
intent is to explain or describe, and it does not
take sides on any issue.
A Th e passage is primarily about establishing
water rights, not establishing reservations.
B Correct. Th e passage is an explanation of
water rights on American Indian lands.
C Th e passage describes legal criteria used to
establish water rights on American Indian
lands but does not take issue with them.
D Th e passage does not discuss the earliest
date for water rights on American Indian
lands.
E Th e passage is primarily about establishing
water rights, not about types of reservations.
Th e correct answer is B.
I chose B after skimming the passage without understanding it . But when i decided to look at the question as part of my review process, i felt C is more appropriate I feel B is wrong . The explanation doesnt match the option .But Option B says rights of american indian tribes and the explain says rights on american indian lands .
MY REASONING

Its a Main Idea question. So what i gathered from the passage is
The First para tells us how initially the supreme court decided in favour of the American Indian tribes .
Then the Para goes on to talk about how Winters doctrine can be applied in 3 cases. The winters doctrine has provisions for securing water supply in favour of the Public (Inferred from the last line of 2nd Para) rather than the Indian tribes.
The second para gives an example of how in case of the pueblos , the winters doctrine could be applied even though none of the 3 cases cited in 1st para fitted in this situation .
Since the Winters doctrine is applicable in case of the pueblos .the water supply is not restricted to only the indians but also available to the general public .
Although we have been told not to find flaws in the OG , i couldnt let this pass as this will really affect my RC Prep
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by cans » Mon May 30, 2011 4:07 am
IMO B
It explains how American Indian tribes are entitles to their water rights

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by mundasingh123 » Mon May 30, 2011 4:27 am
cans wrote:IMO B
Did You read what i wrote ?
It explains how American Indian tribes are entitles to their water rights
Right in the 1st para , it has been mentioned that the courts awarded access to the waters in favour of the Tribes , the rest of the para focuses on Winters provisions against this decision.
The line you wrote is already given in the option . :)
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by mundasingh123 » Mon May 30, 2011 9:38 am
What is the purpose of the following sentence in the 1st Paragraph
Later decisions, citing
Winters, established that courts can find federal rights
to reserve water for particular purposes
If the supremem court has already agreed to the water rights being preserved for the Amerian Indian Tribes , why does the author need to broach the topic of reservation of water for the Tribes or is the author trying to argue against the reservation of water for the Tribes.
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by rohu27 » Tue May 31, 2011 1:46 am
mundasingh123 wrote:What is the purpose of the following sentence in the 1st Paragraph
Later decisions, citing
Winters, established that courts can find federal rights
to reserve water for particular purposes
If the supremem court has already agreed to the water rights being preserved for the Amerian Indian Tribes , why does the author need to broach the topic of reservation of water for the Tribes or is the author trying to argue against the reservation of water for the Tribes.
author says the courts based their decisions on the Winters one,even whn the actaul treaties did not mention water rights anywhre, the court still ruled thm in the tribes favour.
so its not like the court already agreed for soemthing.
the passage no whr questions the criteria used. it is just citing the criteria.

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by Geva@EconomistGMAT » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:55 am
mundasingh123 wrote:What is the purpose of the following sentence in the 1st Paragraph
Later decisions, citing
Winters, established that courts can find federal rights
to reserve water for particular purposes
If the supremem court has already agreed to the water rights being preserved for the Amerian Indian Tribes , why does the author need to broach the topic of reservation of water for the Tribes or is the author trying to argue against the reservation of water for the Tribes.
To cite means "to quote", or "to bring something as evidence in favor of your opinion".

the passage begins with a single case where water right were awarded to indians.
The later decisions are 3 further cases citing winters - thus we can infer that these are further cases/criteria for awarding water rights to indians.
the second paragraph presents another, fourth criteria of reserving indian water rights, beond the three criteria presented earlier.

The entire passage is about the criteria the courts use to award water rights - when do the courts award water rights even though the treaty does not explicitly say "water". There is no questioning of these legal criteria - there's nowhere that says "these criteria are wrong".
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:04 am
Thanks Geva for explaining.
Could you help me on this question . I dont say C is wrong . I agree on the OA which is C
But isnt B valid too .The passage explicitly says that the pueblos were never a part of the federal lands . In 1848 when US gained sovereignty , the peueblos were already a reservation .Since US gained sovereignty in 1848 , the 3 provisions set forth by winters doctrine expounded in the 1st para will not be applicable to pueblos. Cant we proceed 1 step further and infer that "if the criteria discussed in
lines 10-20 were the only criteria for establishing a
reservation's water rights" ,Reservations established before 1848 would be
judged to have no water rights
because provision 2 says that land has to be withdrawn from federal lands if winters laws are to be considered applicable
.


58. The passage suggests that, if the criteria discussed in
lines 10-20 were the only criteria for establishing a
reservation's water rights, which of the following would
be true?
(A) The water rights of the inhabitants of the Fort
Belknap Indian Reservation would not take
precedence over those of other citizens.
(B) Reservations established before 1848 would be
judged to have no water rights.
(C) There would be no legal basis for the water
rights of the Rio Grande pueblos.
(D) Reservations other than American Indian
reservations could not be created with reserved
water rights.
(E) Treaties establishing reservations would have to
mention water rights explicitly in order to
reserve water for a particular purpose.
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by Geva@EconomistGMAT » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:24 am
mundasingh123 wrote:Thanks Geva for explaining.
Could you help me on this question . I dont say C is wrong . I agree on the OA which is C
But isnt B valid too .The passage explicitly says that the pueblos were never a part of the federal lands . In 1848 when US gained sovereignty , the peueblos were already a reservation .Since US gained sovereignty in 1848 , the 3 provisions set forth by winters doctrine expounded in the 1st para will not be applicable to pueblos. Cant we proceed 1 step further and infer that "if the criteria discussed in
lines 10-20 were the only criteria for establishing a
reservation's water rights" ,Reservations established before 1848 would be
judged to have no water rights
because provision 2 says that land has to be withdrawn from federal lands if winters laws are to be considered applicable
.


58. The passage suggests that, if the criteria discussed in
lines 10-20 were the only criteria for establishing a
reservation's water rights, which of the following would
be true?
(A) The water rights of the inhabitants of the Fort
Belknap Indian Reservation would not take
precedence over those of other citizens.
(B) Reservations established before 1848 would be
judged to have no water rights.
(C) There would be no legal basis for the water
rights of the Rio Grande pueblos.
(D) Reservations other than American Indian
reservations could not be created with reserved
water rights.
(E) Treaties establishing reservations would have to
mention water rights explicitly in order to
reserve water for a particular purpose.
Three major reasons why B is wrong.

1) Because C is right. Once you have an answer, there's really no reason to talk yourself into choosing a wrong answer. If you are confident of an answer, trust your intuition.

2) 1848 is the year the US acquired sovereignty over New Mexico - we don't know that 1848 was the year the Us conquered all indian tribes, Ever.

If B said "reservations in New Mexico established before 1848", it would have a case for being the right answer, except that -

3) Reservations were established by treaty between the US, as a sovereign of the area, and the native American residents - hence the name "reservation" - the US, while considering the area its own territory, "reserves" the rights of Indians in this limited area. Before 1848, the Us did not rule the area, and thus could not establish reservations. In other words - there WERE no reservations (in New Mexico) before 1848, so it's illogical to discuss water rights they did, or did not have.

That last one depends partly on knowledge of US history, but mostly on the first sentence of the passage. The first two reasons are the main ones why B is not the right answer.
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:02 am
I missed the 2nd point Thanks Geva
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