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parallelism for modifiers ?

by hey_thr67 » Tue May 29, 2012 11:40 am
Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population. and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;
(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where

OA: E

[spoiler]I have a doubt. why not C is the solution ? explanation in OG says modifiers have to parallel in order to modify Minnesota ? Is it really necessary. I had negated E just because it uses "there is" phrase, which GMAT doesn't prefer... please explain..[/spoiler]
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by hey_thr67 » Tue May 29, 2012 11:51 am
How does Insead suit to a person with exp in high-tech industry and wanting to pursue entrepreneurship/product management ?

Also comment on the above statement. Here I have modified person with a preposition noun phrase and used conjunction to connect another modifier starting with participle?
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by GMATGuruNY » Wed May 30, 2012 3:52 am
hey_thr67 wrote:Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;
(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where

OA: E
In A and C, THAT still has...and WHERE this predator is not parallel. A conjunction such as AND must connect parallel structures. Eliminate A and C.

In B, where seems to refer to population. Where must refer to A PLACE. Eliminate B.

In D, this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep does not convey the intended meaning. The intended meaning here is that ONLY IN MINNESOTA does the wolf remain the archenemy of cattle and sheep. Eliminate D.

The correct answer is E.
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by dhonu121 » Wed May 30, 2012 5:28 am
Hi Mitch,
Is there any rule for statements of such types:
X is one of the Ys(Plural) that...
Should the prounoun be singular or plural here ?
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by dhonu121 » Wed May 30, 2012 5:42 am
Mitch,
Isnt "has" incorrectly referring to 48 states.?
I think has should be have here and that is why A,B and C are incorrect.
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by 1947 » Wed May 30, 2012 6:48 am
Questions like these are very dicey...
I agree with Mitch that answer should be A ...but ppl say it is Oggicial question and answer is E not A.


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by GMATGuruNY » Wed May 30, 2012 7:30 am
I misspoke earlier. Check my amended post above.
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by GMATGuruNY » Wed May 30, 2012 7:41 am
dhonu121 wrote:Mitch,
Isnt "has" incorrectly referring to 48 states.?
I think has should be have here and that is why A,B and C are incorrect.
THE ONLY ONE takes a SINGULAR verb.
To see the situation more clearly, we can reverse the order:
Of the 48 contiguous states, Minnesota is THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS.

For more on the distinction between THE ONLY ONE and ONLY ONE, check my post here:
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by hey_thr67 » Wed May 30, 2012 8:14 am
In choice C do we have any problem with
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
Do we have any grammatical/comma problem also ?
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by 1947 » Wed May 30, 2012 10:55 am
Thanks Mitch this clears the usage of AND in maintaining paralelism.......
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by RBBmba@2014 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:21 am
GMATGuruNY wrote:
hey_thr67 wrote:Minnesota is the only one of the contiguous forty-eight states that still has a sizable wolf population, and where this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.

(A) that still has a sizable wolf population, and where
(B) that still has a sizable wolf population, where
(C) that still has a sizable population of wolves, and where
(D) where the population of wolves is still sizable;
(E) where there is still a sizable population of wolves and where

OA: E
In A and C, THAT still has...and WHERE this predator is not parallel. A conjunction such as AND must connect parallel structures. Eliminate A and C.

In B, where seems to refer to population. Where must refer to A PLACE. Eliminate B.

In D, this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep does not convey the intended meaning. The intended meaning here is that ONLY IN MINNESOTA does the wolf remain the archenemy of cattle and sheep. Eliminate D.

The correct answer is E.
Hi Mitch,
NOT able to clearly understand how the option D doesn't convey the intended meaning that ONLY IN MINNESOTA does the wolf remain the archenemy of cattle and sheep ?

Is it because of the FACT that the portion after semicolon -- this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep -- DOESN'T CLEARLY imply that whether this predator remains the archenemy ONLY in MINNESOTA or in some other states as well. Am I correct ?

Please help!

As for the OA(E), where there is... -- is such a CONSTRUCTION frequent on GMAT ? Do we have any other Official instances ?
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by RBBmba@2014 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:52 am
Mitch - any update on my above concerns Sir ?

Would you please share your feedback on these questions ?
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by GMATGuruNY » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:52 pm
RBBmba@2014 wrote: NOT able to clearly understand how the option D doesn't convey the intended meaning that ONLY IN MINNESOTA does the wolf remain the archenemy of cattle and sheep ?

Is it because of the FACT that the portion after semicolon -- this predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep -- DOESN'T CLEARLY imply that whether this predator remains the archenemy ONLY in MINNESOTA or in some other states as well. Am I correct ?
Your understanding is correct.
In D, the portion after the semi-colon reads as follows:
This predator remains the archenemy of cattle and sheep.
Here, the danger posed by this predator is not constrained to Minnesota.
As a result, the intended meaning of the original sentence is not conveyed.
As for the OA(E), where there is... -- is such a CONSTRUCTION frequent on GMAT ? Do we have any other Official instances ?
Offhand, I cannot cite another OA with where there.
But this construction is not unusual.
Two common sayings in the US:
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
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