I think this is a good place to discuss the below question.... justify your answers...I believe at the end of this discussion, we might be able to clearly understand whether 'five times more' is redundant or not.lunarpower wrote:not true. in fact, not only is "x is five times greater than y" NOT redundant, its meaning is actually different from that of "x is five times y".gurudev wrote:I Have one doubt, in using the construction "five time greater than". I construe that using five times and "greater or more" at the same time may be taken as redundancy.
(warning: the discussion that follows is actually more quant-appropriate; for verbal it's sufficient to realize that there's no redundancy and that the meanings are different)
first, consider percentage differences, for which the difference is obvious:
X is 50% of Y --> X is half as big as Y
X is 50% greater than Y --> X is 1.5 times as big as Y
that's a stark contrast; not only are the different, but one implies that X < y while the other implies that X > Y.
now, more pertinent:
X is five times Y, or X is five times as great as Y --> X = 5Y
X is five times greater than Y --> X = Y + 5Y, or X = 6Y
when you say "so-and-so-many times greater than", you're actually referring to a quantity that many times over and above the original quantity, not just a multiple of the original quantity.
187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.
(A) Americans were killed as
(B) Americans were killed than
(C) Americans were killed than those who
(D) more Americans were killed as there
(E) more Americans were killed as those who












