Not making any progress in Quant. Why? Test Date is 6/30.

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Hi all,

I'm currently scheduled to take the test on June 30. I've been studying for months (6+ intesively at this point) and have yet to see any meaningful progress on Quant.

I've taken 7 practice exams at this point and the results are:

MGMAT CAT2 (11/23/13): 620 (42Q, 33V)
MGMAT CAT3 (12/1/13): 650 (36Q, 43V)
MGMAT CAT4 (5/3/14): 640 (42Q, 36V)
GMAT Prep CAT1 (5/17/14): 720 (44Q, 45V)
MGMAT CAT5 (5/24/14): 650 (40Q, 38V)
GMAT Prep CAT2 (5/31/14): 700 (44Q, 41V)
MGMAT CAT6 (6/6/14): 620 (36Q, 38V)

My studying basically consists of approx. 2 hours of Quant before work in the AM followed by approx. 2 hours of Verbal following work in the PM. I take the practice tests on Saturday and Sunday has been a wash for me for the most part due to having to get my errands for the week done and other things so I've only been able to study 1-3 hours on that day.

I'm incredibly dismayed by the lack of Quant progress to this point. It's beyond frustrating given how much time I've poured into it coupled with the fact that my exam date is now less than 3 weeks away.

At this point, I've been through OG13 questions 2x as a whole (with many questions 3x).

I've been through all 600 level GMAT Club PS questions. With these, I printed out every problem and placed them in a binder, differentiating by "Right", "Right but Review" and "Wrong". I've reviewed all of the "Wrong" and "Right but Review" questions more than once. With these, I've also gone through every question using the Manhattan GMAT "how to analyze a practice problem" strategy (https://www.manhattangmat.com/articles/ ... roblem.cfm), spending sometimes up to 10+ minutes reviewing a problem and its alternate solutions, etc.

My performance on the 600 level GMAT clubs questions was mediocre on the first go through (probably 60-70% hit rate). However, upon reviewing the answers, I understand the solutions. It's the initial translation that gets me. Everything seems simple in retrospect. There have been only a handful of problems whose solutions I didn't really understand. I look at the problems, have an idea of what is required (i.e. it's a work rate so W=RT) and then just spin my wheels on a lot of questions beyond the simple ones (i.e. when variables start getting brought in instead of actual numbers and other things that increase difficulty).

I've recently been working on the 700 level GMAT Club questions and I'm doing terribly. My recent tests haven't been any better.

Is there anything I can do in the next 2 weeks to fix this? I am willing to commit the time over these last few weeks and do whatever it takes (if that means sleeping 4-5 hours, then so be it). I desperately want to hit the 48Q or 49Q range and I just don't see it happening at this point.

I don't feel that I'm conceptually weak because I'm able to identify what the question topics are and what the question is usually testing but I'm certainly not comfortable with a lot of topics. I just don't see the approaches that look so easy in retrospect.

I really don't know what to do at this point. I don't want to believe that I've hit my Math "max" but I'm at a loss and very close to rescheduling.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
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by Jim@StratusPrep » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:06 am
This is just a general statement. Often times I see students who "understand" the concepts, but do not really have a mastery. The way I describe it is that I understand how to exercise, but if I don't do it, I won't be in good shape. For the GMAT it means working through all of the problems and calculations so that you have a genuine mastery and can explain a question to someone who has not studied. It sounds like you have quite a few areas like that, so my best suggestion is to dive in and do the work. It's a grind, but the only way to get better.
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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:56 am
To improve your quantitative score, I believe that you should COMPARTMENTALIZE your learning and take the time to master each topic (e.g., percents, ratios, exponents, statistics, etc.). This means that, for each topic, you should:
1) Learn the underlying concepts (rules, attributes, notation, etc.)
2) Learn GMAT-specific strategies related to that topic
3) Practice dozens of questions all related to that one topic.
4) Don't stop working on that topic until you have mastered it

Then, and only then, move on to the next topic.

To help you focus on one topic at a time, you can use BTG's tagging feature. For example, here are all of the questions tagged as statistics questions: https://www.beatthegmat.com/forums/tags/ ... statistics
See the left side of that linked page for more tag options.

You should also spend A LOT of time reviewing the responses from the Experts on this site. They model the steps one should take when tackling math problems.

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by [email protected] » Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:14 pm
Hi rxn,

Do you have the flexibility to push your Test Date back?

Based on what you've described, I think that you're "locked into" a particular mindset when it comes to the Quant section. 2-3 weeks will probably not be enough time to change how you currently approach this part of the Test (since you've been working in this fashion for 6 months).

The good news is that it wouldn't take much time to make the necessary changes. My guess is that 1-2 months would be plenty of time, but you'll need some new resources, you'll need to change how you "see" Quant questions and you'll need a bit of "calendar space" so you don't feel too much immediate pressure.

I'm hoping that you can answer a few additional questions:

1) What is your goal score?
2) Where do you want to apply to school? And when?
3) What resources have you been using to study?

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by rxn » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:43 pm
Thanks all for the replies.

Rich,

I do have the flexibility to push it back. I don't want to but if I have to I definitely will.

With regards to your questions:

My goal score is 730-740. Ideally, I'm looking to for 48Q or 49Q and a verbal score in 90%+ range. I'm confident that my verbal will be in that area based on my GMATPrep tests to this point. In my opinion, my GPA and work history aren't as strong as other candidates so I'm hoping to be able to lean on my GMAT score to help boost my application.

As I live and work in NYC, I will be applying to NYU and Columbia. I will also apply to other schools including Virginia, Booth, MIT and either UCLA or Berkeley.

The resources I've been using to study are:

OG13 as well as Quant + Verbal Review books
Manhattan GMAT books(including Advanced Quant)
GMAT Club practice tests
GMAT Pill

Thank you in advance.