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HOW TO CRACK VERBAL WITH 40+ ?

by aslan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:17 am
Ok this is a topic from a non-native and I think it needs some highlighting as well.

I have some points which i would like to be made first:

1)GMATprep, compared to other CATS is way off track in verbal, i.e a MGMAT,PR,KAPLAN would give a range of V37 to V40 where GMATprep give it a V31.I'm seeing this a lot when the number incorrect goes above 10.

2)GMATprep looks a lot less adaptive in Verbal section as compared to Quant...the more you got correct the less it deviates...the highest cut off looks at 7 points.

3)Irrespective of the various GMATprep R&D done I still believe that the number of incorrect counts a lot more in verbal of GMATprep.

4) at 7 incorrect verbal gives a 42 and at 11 it gives a 31...a margin of 4 giving 12 point loss! (irrespective of the difficulty here:of how many RC,CR or SC or wrong done in a string, or done in the first 20 ; consider both done in a random manner)

Now, Considering the above I think that one needs to be proficient in doing ONLY 4-5-6 mistakes at MAX in verbal section.This can only be achieved when you are having about 99% correction rate on all practice whether in RC,SC or CR.

How to go about it.Can the experts please discuss the methods here, and especially in terms of which CATS are best supportive of getting closer to the GMATprep feel. (many give good estimation of Quant scores but are not getting close to verbal!)

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by GoBlue » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:57 am
Not sure I completely agree with you. In my recent GMATPrep 1 I scored 680 ( 49 Q 35 V ). I had 14 / 41 errors in Verbal and a couple of 3 continous errors. For Quant, I had 12 / 37 errors most of which were in the 2nd half and also these errors were evenly spread out.
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by aslan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:59 am
@GoBlue: That's what I meant btw

Go above 10 'incorrect' and GMATprep drops you in low V30's pretty easily.That's not what happens in other CAT's.

I cannot seem to gauge my level with other CAT's correctly, because GMATprep seems to be much much aggressive in dealing with scores in verbal (however easier the questions may look compared to other CAT's).
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by Night reader » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:41 am
aslan wrote:@GoBlue: That's what I meant btw

Go above 10 'incorrect' and GMATprep drops you in low V30's pretty easily.That's not what happens in other CAT's.

I cannot seem to gauge my level with other CAT's correctly, because GMATprep seems to be much much aggressive in dealing with scores in verbal (however easier the questions may look compared to other CAT's).
Aslan, various GMAT preparation companies develop and introduce their CATs. Now, I am asking you and the BTG community: 'How many times, before going into a deal, or taking some one's word for counting, or believing something and acting thereon, had we asked ourselves - why any credit should be given at all?' I guess the vast majority of us, even easy believers, would respond 'always'.

Let's question - why we had believed in MGMAT, Princeton Review, Knewton, Kaplan, Grockit and others? Is there any statistical evidence suggesting that actual scores reported by the certain number of recent (within 5-year period) GMAT test takers and their practice CAT results are correlated? Is there any precise test deviation data used in place, except for that taken from the internet forums, web blogs? What is the sampling error, population statistics... No, there is nothing or almost nothing indicating an objective approach to the CAT algorithms distributed with the mentioned company software products. In fact, these companies could not come close to the real GMAT scoring algorithm patented after the GMAC and ACT Inc. even within 100 score deviation. Yet, some would argue and believe that MGMAT has 60+ deviation from the actual GMAT score, or Kaplan has 80+, whatever.

I have certain doubts about the GMAT Prep software too. It is unlikely that the exam scoring algorithm would be made available to the population of potential examinees. Some elements - yes, general description and imitation of the process - yes, but the mechanism of test scoring itself, - I just have strong doubts about this.
My knowledge frontiers came to evolve the GMATPill's methods - the credited study means to boost the Verbal competence. I really like their videos, especially for RC, CR and SC. You do check their study methods at https://www.gmatpill.com
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by aslan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:13 am
@Night reader:Here is the trouble with CATS as compared to the Quant approach:

Normally on a Quant section the CAT's and GMATprep stand really close by and you can also verify from the explanations that where "you" also stand in terms of progress made.However in verbal there is a huge deviation and when you end up on GMATprep with V31 from just a two three mistake gap, from a constant V40-V41 from other CAT's you begin to have serious doubts on where your prep had gone wrong!....It doesn't just add up at all with verbal on how the scoring is done by GMAC.

I wouldn't take on any company whatsoever (because they are again just second parties), but I just want to ask that is it just by hunch that people get V40 to V44 to V47 or V38....there is not so much question difficulty assessed here just maybe one to two mistake gaps....and to sum it all up a HUGE HUGE overall GMAT percentile gets decreased and increased as a result of this (mostly in verbal).
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