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by selango » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:12 pm
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selango wrote: For 10 years there is uninterrupted prosperity.But after 6 yrs itself there is a recession.This weakens the argument.
D) During 1939, the U.S. economy contracted sharply, unemployment jumped 5%, and America's optimism fell.

Contracted economy, higher unemployment rate, and lower optimism is NOT a recession. It could simply be interpret as "less rosy", but a far cry to call it anything but a minor hiccup, if at all.
selango wrote: In the argument it is stated that "New Deal singlehandedly propelled the United States out of the Great Depression and into decades of uninterrupted prosperity"

World war does not propelled the country out of depression.But it strengthen the economy.
B) The considerable government expenditures and massive labor requirements engendered by America's entry into World War II in late 1941 helped employ Americans and grow GDP.

There's nothing that says WWII propelled the country out of depression, but you're right, the war did strengthen the economy, thus weakens the argument that New Deal singlehandedly put US into decades of uninterrupted prosperity. In fact, anything that could offer as alternative to say that New Deal was not the sole reason is enough to weaken the argument.
The argument states that the purpose of New deal is "singlehandedly propelled the United States out of the Great Depression".

WWII only strengthen the economy not propelled the country out of depression.This can't the alternative reason.

First New deal propelled the country out of depression and economy grows.Then later WWII provides additional support and strengthen the already grown economy.

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by pnk » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:12 pm
neha.patni wrote:The New Deal in America began in 1933 and included widespread bank reforms, unprecedented government infrastructure spending, and unparalleled expansion in the size of government. Some political commentators and economic historians contend that President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal singlehandedly propelled the United States out of the Great Depression and into decades of uninterrupted prosperity. To support this claim, these economists note that during the years following 1933, GDP grew, unemployment shrunk, and optimism increased.

Which of the following statements, if true, would most weaken the above argument?

B) The considerable government expenditures and massive labor requirements engendered by America's entry into World War II in late 1941 helped employ Americans and grow GDP.
D) During 1939, the U.S. economy contracted sharply, unemployment jumped 5%, and America's optimism fell.
IMO B - one of the key things of weakening qestions is 'not to hurt the argument' ie we need to assume the truthfulness of the facts mentioned in the argument.

In this case 'these economists note that during the years following 1933, GDP grew, unemployment shrunk, and optimism increased' - is a FACT, while option D tries to show the fact given in the agrument is incorrect - GDP/unemployment etc not jumped but dropped.

B shows an alternate reason which could have propelled the economy. This choice does not show that 'WW2 did propelled the economy' just show there could be another reason for the same...weakening the argument, which says 'new deals--> out of depression'.

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by uwhusky » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:28 pm
selango wrote: The argument states that the purpose of New deal is "singlehandedly propelled the United States out of the Great Depression".

WWII only strengthen the economy not propelled the country out of depression.This can't the alternative reason.

First New deal propelled the country out of depression and economy grows.Then later WWII provides additional support and strengthen the already grown economy.

What you say?
Well, if you use that reason to refute B, then you can't also use that reason to support D, because D certainly says nothing about propelling US out of Great Depression.

The argument said two things, New Deal propelled US out of the Great Depression, and New Deal brought decades of uninterrupted prosperity. If there's an answer that introduces alternative scenario where another element was responsible to bring US out of Great Depression, that too will be a correct answer of weakening the argument. Answer B introduces alternative scenario to the second claim, and that's sufficient in GMAT as weakening.

D is simply attractive, but cannot be the correct answer without a lot of additional assumptions.
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by selango » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:58 pm
Option D does not tell abt propelling out of depression.Tats right.This option weakens the argument bcoz of recession in 1939.

First New deal does helped the economy to grow.Later its fails to strengthen the economy.Thus it weakens the argument saying that "New deal propelled the country out of depression but does not does not provide decades of uninterrupted preosperity"

Yes.Option B provides the alternateive scenario.I accept this.However WWII s in late 1941 only.Lets say WWII is the reason that helped the economy to grow.

these economists note that during the years following 1933, GDP grew, unemployment shrunk, and optimism increased.

If this argument is true,bw the period 1933 and 1941 which one was responsible to strengthen the economy?WWII.No.Then WWII can't be responsible.
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by uwhusky » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:20 pm
Again, what D says do not mean "recession" or "interrupted prosperity". You are assuming too much about what D says.

Again as I have mentioned before as well, "decade" is 10 years, hence "decade(s)" has to be at least 20 years or more.

1930 + 20 = 1950+...
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by reply2spg » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:43 pm
Here is the link why I changed my answer from B to D

https://www.platinumgmat.com/practice_gm ... ion_id=607

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by paes » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:22 pm
reply2spg wrote:Here is the link why I changed my answer from B to D

https://www.platinumgmat.com/practice_gm ... ion_id=607

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I am not convinced with the given explanation.
This does not look a good source for GMAT.

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by reply2spg » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:23 pm
Me either...

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reply2spg wrote:Here is the link why I changed my answer from B to D

https://www.platinumgmat.com/practice_gm ... ion_id=607

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I am not convinced with the given explanation.
This does not look a good source for GMAT.
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by Stuart@KaplanGMAT » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:48 pm
neha.patni wrote:The New Deal in America began in 1933 and included widespread bank reforms, unprecedented government infrastructure spending, and unparalleled expansion in the size of government. Some political commentators and economic historians contend that President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal singlehandedly propelled the United States out of the Great Depression and into decades of uninterrupted prosperity. To support this claim, these economists note that during the years following 1933, GDP grew, unemployment shrunk, and optimism increased.

Which of the following statements, if true, would most weaken the above argument?

A) The considerable debt burden that the government assumed to fund the New Deal sparked fear in the minds of some economists, investors, and businessmen.
B) The considerable government expenditures and massive labor requirements engendered by America's entry into World War II in late 1941 helped employ Americans and grow GDP.
C) On average, GDP per capita fell and unemployment rose in many foreign countries during the years after President Roosevelt announced his New Deal.
D) During 1939, the U.S. economy contracted sharply, unemployment jumped 5%, and America's optimism fell.
E) U.S. GDP during the mid 1930s stood at levels much lower than 30 years later.
(D) is indeed the correct answer.

Everyone has identified the conclusion, but you're not looking at the only piece of evidence provided:
To support this claim, these economists note that during the years following 1933, GDP grew, unemployment shrunk, and optimism increased.
So, the economists themselves declare that GDP, unemployment and optimism are relevant factors when judging FDR's success.

(D) states that this trend stopped in 1939. Since the factors that allowed the economists to declare the New Deal a success were reversed only 6 years after the New Deal was introduced, the economists' conclusion that the New Deal led to decades of uninterrupted prosperity, their conclusion is greatly undermined.

(B) is irrelevant, since it has no impact on the evidence cited by the economists. The economy was propelled out of the depression by the New Deal; that's not the same thing as saying that the New Deal single-handedly sustained economic growth over the following decades.
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by uwhusky » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:59 pm
Cool, thanks Stuart!
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by paes » Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:51 am
Stuart,

I don't understand how B is irrelevant.

-> Some <X> contend that New Deal singlehandedly propelled the United States out of the Great Depression and into decades of uninterrupted prosperity.

means that -> because of the deal -> (i) US came out of the depression (ii) And get a decade of uninterrupted prosperity.

Support : GDP grew, unemployment shrunk, and optimism increased.

Now B says :
The considerable government expenditures and massive labor requirements engendered by America's entry into World War II in late 1941 helped employ Americans and grow GDP.

B clearly says that World War2 helped Americans to get the Job.
Hence we can't say that the deal singlehandedly did the job.

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by Stuart@KaplanGMAT » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:26 am
paes wrote:Stuart,

I don't understand how B is irrelevant.

-> Some <X> contend that New Deal singlehandedly propelled the United States out of the Great Depression and into decades of uninterrupted prosperity.

means that -> because of the deal -> (i) US came out of the depression (ii) And get a decade of uninterrupted prosperity.

Support : GDP grew, unemployment shrunk, and optimism increased.

Now B says :
The considerable government expenditures and massive labor requirements engendered by America's entry into World War II in late 1941 helped employ Americans and grow GDP.

B clearly says that World War2 helped Americans to get the Job.
Hence we can't say that the deal singlehandedly did the job.
Again, the problem is your interpretation of "propelled".

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
1. Drive, push, or cause to move in a particular direction, typically forward.
2. Spur or drive into a particular situation
When we say one thing propels another, we might mean that it's doing all the work; however, propel can also mean give the initial push to get things going. When we speak of one particular event propelling change, we're using the latter definition of the word.

So, even if later events helped out, the entire initial push could still have come from the New Deal.

Here's an analogous argument:
The 1990 movie Pretty Woman singlehandedly propelled Julia Roberts to two decades of constant fame and fortune.

Which of the following, if true, would most weaken the statement above?

b) In 2000 Julia Roberts won an academy award for her portrayal of Erin Brockovich in the critically acclaimed and financially successful movie of the same name and.
Does (b) weaken the argument that Pretty Woman gave Julia the huge push she needed to massive success? No - it just notes another event that later accelerated her career.
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by neha.patni » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:53 am
Stuart Kovinsky wrote:
paes wrote:Stuart,

I don't understand how B is irrelevant.

-> Some <X> contend that New Deal singlehandedly propelled the United States out of the Great Depression and into decades of uninterrupted prosperity.

means that -> because of the deal -> (i) US came out of the depression (ii) And get a decade of uninterrupted prosperity.

Support : GDP grew, unemployment shrunk, and optimism increased.

Now B says :
The considerable government expenditures and massive labor requirements engendered by America's entry into World War II in late 1941 helped employ Americans and grow GDP.

B clearly says that World War2 helped Americans to get the Job.
Hence we can't say that the deal singlehandedly did the job.
Again, the problem is your interpretation of "propelled".

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
1. Drive, push, or cause to move in a particular direction, typically forward.
2. Spur or drive into a particular situation
When we say one thing propels another, we might mean that it's doing all the work; however, propel can also mean give the initial push to get things going. When we speak of one particular event propelling change, we're using the latter definition of the word.

So, even if later events helped out, the entire initial push could still have come from the New Deal.

Here's an analogous argument:
The 1990 movie Pretty Woman singlehandedly propelled Julia Roberts to two decades of constant fame and fortune.

Which of the following, if true, would most weaken the statement above?

b) In 2000 Julia Roberts won an academy award for her portrayal of Erin Brockovich in the critically acclaimed and financially successful movie of the same name and.
Does (b) weaken the argument that Pretty Woman gave Julia the huge push she needed to massive success? No - it just notes another event that later accelerated her career.
OA D. I also selected B considering the conclusion that new deal propelled the United States out of the Great Depression and into decades of uninterrupted prosperity and was trying to weaken it by considering another factor i.e. The considerable government expenditures and massive labor requirements engendered by America's entry into World War II in late 1941 helped to employ Americans and grow GDP.

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by reply2spg » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:18 am
Thanks for your great insight Stuart.
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paes wrote:Stuart,

I don't understand how B is irrelevant.

-> Some <X> contend that New Deal singlehandedly propelled the United States out of the Great Depression and into decades of uninterrupted prosperity.

means that -> because of the deal -> (i) US came out of the depression (ii) And get a decade of uninterrupted prosperity.

Support : GDP grew, unemployment shrunk, and optimism increased.

Now B says :
The considerable government expenditures and massive labor requirements engendered by America's entry into World War II in late 1941 helped employ Americans and grow GDP.

B clearly says that World War2 helped Americans to get the Job.
Hence we can't say that the deal singlehandedly did the job.
Again, the problem is your interpretation of "propelled".

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
1. Drive, push, or cause to move in a particular direction, typically forward.
2. Spur or drive into a particular situation
When we say one thing propels another, we might mean that it's doing all the work; however, propel can also mean give the initial push to get things going. When we speak of one particular event propelling change, we're using the latter definition of the word.

So, even if later events helped out, the entire initial push could still have come from the New Deal.

Here's an analogous argument:
The 1990 movie Pretty Woman singlehandedly propelled Julia Roberts to two decades of constant fame and fortune.

Which of the following, if true, would most weaken the statement above?

b) In 2000 Julia Roberts won an academy award for her portrayal of Erin Brockovich in the critically acclaimed and financially successful movie of the same name and.
Does (b) weaken the argument that Pretty Woman gave Julia the huge push she needed to massive success? No - it just notes another event that later accelerated her career.
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