Note that spending that extra time on one question prevented you from getting to 3 questions at the end. Was that a good trade-off? Obviously not!
You basically have to convince yourself that (a) on average, going way over does not improve your chances of getting the question right, and (b) going way over does improve your chances of running out of time at the end (which leads to more wrong answers).
Do this by going and looking at the data from your last few CATs. How many times did you go over 3 min? How many did you get right vs. wrong? How many sub-1-min questions did you get wrong on which you either had to rush or thought you got it right but made a careless mistake? Do the analysis to show yourself just how much this is bringing you down.
By the way - on ones on which you randomly guess, you have to assume worst case scenario: that you'd get them all wrong on test day. Don't want to trust to luck here!
Then, go look at the characteristics of the ones on which you tend to spend too much time. PS vs DS? Different content areas? Find patterns. Next time you see problems that fit those patterns (eg, wordy rate problems that use algebra instead of real numbers), be extra conscious about the time.
Also, make sure this is your mindset: I'm going to have to guess at some point on this test - I don't get a choice about that. My only choice is: do I want to be in charge of selecting the specific problems on which I guess, or do I want to be forced to guess on x questions in a row at the end?
There's only one good answer to that question: you want to be in charge. You want to select the hardest questions as you see them throughout the section. This way, you're guessing on the hardest ones, not some mix of difficulty levels, and you're spreading those guesses out, rather than having them clustered together. (A string of wrong answers in a row is far more detrimental than the same number of wrong answers spread out, with correct answers interspersed.)
Most people have to guess on 5-7 questions per section. Note: this does not mean people have to guess randomly on that many. Some of those should be educated guesses - you actually take time to eliminate some wrong answers before you make a guess.
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hi,
i gave MGMAT 6 and scored 690. My last three scores have decreased. I am worried as to what will happen on the D Day. Though my sectional breakup was qa - 50 and va - 34. Missed some answers due to silly mistakes. Am scared. Please advice..
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i gave MGMAT 6 and scored 690. My last three scores have decreased. I am worried as to what will happen on the D Day. Though my sectional breakup was qa - 50 and va - 34. Missed some answers due to silly mistakes. Am scared. Please advice..
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That's within the standard deviation of the test - nothing has changed about your inherent ability. You're not getting worse. 
Remember that this test is not actually precise to within 10 points, although the scoring scale is in increments of 10 points. The SD on the official test is about 30 points and the SD on our tests is about 50 points.
Remember that this test is not actually precise to within 10 points, although the scoring scale is in increments of 10 points. The SD on the official test is about 30 points and the SD on our tests is about 50 points.
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Hi,
today i analysed a particular pattern in all of the MGMAT cats which i have given till date. In the Verbal section, between the last 12 questions from 30-41, i got around 5-8 questions wrong in all of the tests. Which screw my scores in verbal big time. Any thing which i can avoid doing? I think its loss of concentration which is killing me.
Any suggestions on which i can work upon....
today i analysed a particular pattern in all of the MGMAT cats which i have given till date. In the Verbal section, between the last 12 questions from 30-41, i got around 5-8 questions wrong in all of the tests. Which screw my scores in verbal big time. Any thing which i can avoid doing? I think its loss of concentration which is killing me.
Any suggestions on which i can work upon....
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How's your timing during that last bit? Are you still spending about the same time as you are earlier in the section, or are you working more quickly (for whatever reason: you're tired, you're low on time, etc)?
Any patterns within those? Do you tend to get certain types or sub-types wrong? (Maybe you're mostly falling down on those questions that are your weaknesses.) Or is it across the board, no real pattern? (In which case general brain fatigue might be a bigger factor.)
As you take future tests or sit for long study sessions, you can also experiment with things that can help to keep your energy up: what you eat and drink on the breaks, what physical movement you do on the breaks. You can even do things in the test center, such as stretching and flexing your legs, sitting up really straight in the chair, taking deep breaths - anything to get your body loose and energized.
Any patterns within those? Do you tend to get certain types or sub-types wrong? (Maybe you're mostly falling down on those questions that are your weaknesses.) Or is it across the board, no real pattern? (In which case general brain fatigue might be a bigger factor.)
As you take future tests or sit for long study sessions, you can also experiment with things that can help to keep your energy up: what you eat and drink on the breaks, what physical movement you do on the breaks. You can even do things in the test center, such as stretching and flexing your legs, sitting up really straight in the chair, taking deep breaths - anything to get your body loose and energized.
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Hi,
My timing in english is good. I am able to complete the section with ease unless something weird comes in. Like i got a passage in MGMAT 6 towards the end of the test which had 100 lines. I hd to rush through last 2 or 3 questions. else timing is not an issue in verbal. The errors were across the board. And it majorly happens in verbal. I maths i understand that since i lag a bit in time management, the questions go wrong, but in verbal it must be wrong due to the mental fatigue. Any suggestions as to what to do while approaching the end of test to avoid loss of concentration???
My timing in english is good. I am able to complete the section with ease unless something weird comes in. Like i got a passage in MGMAT 6 towards the end of the test which had 100 lines. I hd to rush through last 2 or 3 questions. else timing is not an issue in verbal. The errors were across the board. And it majorly happens in verbal. I maths i understand that since i lag a bit in time management, the questions go wrong, but in verbal it must be wrong due to the mental fatigue. Any suggestions as to what to do while approaching the end of test to avoid loss of concentration???
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Hi
I gave a MGMAT after resetting the pool and got a 770. qa - 51, verbal - 44 the questions were very repetetive or may be i had analyzed each of the them properly so i remembered.
In any case i was happy and satisified. But, i will not give any more MGMAT tests now and will instead analyze my mistakes and question types of OG. please advice me on that concentration thing.Your words are really very motivating. 
Rajiv
I gave a MGMAT after resetting the pool and got a 770. qa - 51, verbal - 44 the questions were very repetetive or may be i had analyzed each of the them properly so i remembered.
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As you continue to study, here are some things to try (including some of the things I mentioned in my last post):
- study as though it's the test: eg, if you sit for a 2-hour study session, take one 10-min break about halfway through; otherwise, work hard the entire time without stopping. Figure out what you want to do for the entire 2 hours before you start and make yourself stay on track / concentrate the entire time (except for your 10 min break)
- during the breaks, try eating and drinking different things and notice how your body and mind react (literally keep notes, track the data, and see what gives you energy and helps you to maintain focus)
- same as above for physical movement during the breaks (stretching, flexing, touching your toes, walking around, etc.)
- same as above for mental stimulation during the breaks. Should you: read a magazine or do something totally unrelated to the test? give yourself a mental pep-talk? review notes related to the upcoming session? Different things will work for different people.
- Also do things while you're sitting there studying, such as stretching and flexing your legs, sitting up really straight in the chair, taking deep breaths - anything to get your body loose and energized. Remember that you can't leave the chair and you can't make audible noise (pretend it's the test center!).
- study as though it's the test: eg, if you sit for a 2-hour study session, take one 10-min break about halfway through; otherwise, work hard the entire time without stopping. Figure out what you want to do for the entire 2 hours before you start and make yourself stay on track / concentrate the entire time (except for your 10 min break)
- during the breaks, try eating and drinking different things and notice how your body and mind react (literally keep notes, track the data, and see what gives you energy and helps you to maintain focus)
- same as above for physical movement during the breaks (stretching, flexing, touching your toes, walking around, etc.)
- same as above for mental stimulation during the breaks. Should you: read a magazine or do something totally unrelated to the test? give yourself a mental pep-talk? review notes related to the upcoming session? Different things will work for different people.
- Also do things while you're sitting there studying, such as stretching and flexing your legs, sitting up really straight in the chair, taking deep breaths - anything to get your body loose and energized. Remember that you can't leave the chair and you can't make audible noise (pretend it's the test center!).
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Oh, and I forgot to add for others who want to take tests on which they might see repeated questions:
You can still take both GMATPrep and MGMAT CATs as long as you follow a few guidelines to minimize the chance of artificially inflating your score via question repeats. First, anytime you see a problem that you remember (and this means: I know the answer or I'm pretty sure I remember the answer, not just "hmm, this looks sort of familiar..."), immediately look at the timer and make yourself sit there for the full length of time for that question type. This way, you don't artificially give yourself more time than you should have. Second, think about whether you got this problem right the last time. If you did, get it right again this time. If you didn't, get it wrong again. If you *completely honestly* think that you would get it right this time around if it were a new question (even though you got it wrong last time) because you've studied that area and improved, then get it right this time.
You can still take both GMATPrep and MGMAT CATs as long as you follow a few guidelines to minimize the chance of artificially inflating your score via question repeats. First, anytime you see a problem that you remember (and this means: I know the answer or I'm pretty sure I remember the answer, not just "hmm, this looks sort of familiar..."), immediately look at the timer and make yourself sit there for the full length of time for that question type. This way, you don't artificially give yourself more time than you should have. Second, think about whether you got this problem right the last time. If you did, get it right again this time. If you didn't, get it wrong again. If you *completely honestly* think that you would get it right this time around if it were a new question (even though you got it wrong last time) because you've studied that area and improved, then get it right this time.
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thanks a lot Stacey about the useful insight and advice.
I gave GMATPREP 2 and scored a 710. qa - 50 and va - somewhr in 35-38.
dont remember since i pressed next button. But i am a bit skeptical about the score.
I gave GMAT PREP1 and i scored a 740 with qa - 48, va - 44
and i got 13 wrong in quant and 10 wrong in verbal. But this time i got 7 wrong in maths and 11 wrong in verbal and the wrongs were evenly spread, though i got 2 instances where i got 2 consecutive qns wrong.
What can be the possible reason in a decrease of 30 points? Is it because of consecutive qns or am a bit over analyzing the test?
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I gave GMATPREP 2 and scored a 710. qa - 50 and va - somewhr in 35-38.
dont remember since i pressed next button. But i am a bit skeptical about the score.
I gave GMAT PREP1 and i scored a 740 with qa - 48, va - 44
and i got 13 wrong in quant and 10 wrong in verbal. But this time i got 7 wrong in maths and 11 wrong in verbal and the wrongs were evenly spread, though i got 2 instances where i got 2 consecutive qns wrong.
What can be the possible reason in a decrease of 30 points? Is it because of consecutive qns or am a bit over analyzing the test?
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You don't actually know what you would need to know in order to make the comparison. You don't know the difficulty levels of the ones you got right vs. the ones you got wrong. You don't know which were "experimental." I put that in quotes because they aren't technically testing the questions via GMATPrep - they're already retired - but the algorithm is the same as that on the official test. Only about 27 in quant and about 31 in verbal actually count.
It's just not possible to look at # right/wrong (and even placement of # right/wrong) and come to good conclusions about the score - there's so much more going on than that.
It's just not possible to look at # right/wrong (and even placement of # right/wrong) and come to good conclusions about the score - there's so much more going on than that.
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Couldn't agree more. I found what gave me peace of mind during the test was the following technique:Stacey Koprince wrote:The worst thing for your score is to get a string of questions wrong in a row - the "penalty" actually magnifies when the questions are in a row.
I followed a pretty religious pattern during the test whereby (on quant) if I fell behind the 2min/question average by more than a minute, then I would guess on the next question without looking at it. It is extremely difficult (psychologically) to let go of a question this easily ... but I found during practice that there was no human way for me to make up time during GMAT Quant once I was behind. So why fool myself into thinking that it will magically happen.
The advantages of this method were:
a. I never felt stressed that I had to hurry up in order to make up time
b. I avoided running into the situation of having to guess on a string of questions at the end (b/c I had previously guessed throughout the test)
It is important to focus on the question following the one where you guessed. The objective is to avoid strings of incorrect answers.
Not sure how good a method this is ... I probably had a few lucky ones during the real test. But it really worked for me. Good Luck
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jimmiejaz - Show all of us how it is done man!!
Good luck on your test! I am looking forward to read your debrief next week!!
Picture this scene before the test, if you have seen the movie 300
Messenger: This is blasphemy! This is madness!
King Leonidas: Madness...?
[shouting]
King Leonidas: This is Sparta!
[Kicks the messenger down the well]
KICK THE GMAT DOWN THE WELL!!!!! 8)
Good luck on your test! I am looking forward to read your debrief next week!!
Picture this scene before the test, if you have seen the movie 300
Messenger: This is blasphemy! This is madness!
King Leonidas: Madness...?
[shouting]
King Leonidas: This is Sparta!
[Kicks the messenger down the well]
KICK THE GMAT DOWN THE WELL!!!!! 8)
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Dear friends,
First of all i would like to thank all of you for you support and help. I wanted to beat the gmat and was pretty confident this time that i will beat it. I religiously followed every advice, like doing questions in a fixed time, checking explanations thoroughly as in why they are wrong and that if the approach is same as mine. Inspite of all this, i scored a dismal 580. My score dropped from 620 to 580. with qa - 42(the worst ever) and va - 27. I just dont know where it went wrong as during the test i felt as if i had to rush in the last 2 questions on quant but verbal was a breeze. But, i never thought of scoring so low in quant after hitting 49-50 constantly on gmat preps and manhattan cats. I am lost now and dont know where to start.
Would like to formulate a new and fresh approach for GMAT. I really want to beat it !!!!!!
Rajiv
First of all i would like to thank all of you for you support and help. I wanted to beat the gmat and was pretty confident this time that i will beat it. I religiously followed every advice, like doing questions in a fixed time, checking explanations thoroughly as in why they are wrong and that if the approach is same as mine. Inspite of all this, i scored a dismal 580. My score dropped from 620 to 580. with qa - 42(the worst ever) and va - 27. I just dont know where it went wrong as during the test i felt as if i had to rush in the last 2 questions on quant but verbal was a breeze. But, i never thought of scoring so low in quant after hitting 49-50 constantly on gmat preps and manhattan cats. I am lost now and dont know where to start.
Would like to formulate a new and fresh approach for GMAT. I really want to beat it !!!!!!
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