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by beatit85 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:13 am
Hi Everyone,

I've been following the posts on this forum for nearly 2 years, but this is actually the first time I write an entry myself. I am pass the GMAT stage already and now I am in the middle of the application process. However, I only picked the "best of the best" school in the first round (already applied to Wharton, MIT and Stanford). Now I wonder if I should actually apply to a some good schools (but not excellent) just as a back up plan. The main question is: what schools would be appropriate in my particular case, as backup schools. Here is my profile:

26 year old female, from eastern Europe (Republic of Moldova)
GPA: 3.96 (top 3 in a section of 120 students) Bachelor degree in International Economic Relations
GMAT: 720 (50Q 36V)
TOEFL: 110
Work experience:
- 3 years as senior consultant in the advisory department of PwC Bucharest. Had 2 promotions during that time.
- one year in a research consultancy company in Chisinau, Moldova dealing with business/government issues. Leader on the local market. That's my current job.

I also have a summer school with Georgetown University. It's called American Institute on Political Studies and Economic System (and an A degree for the entire course, with an official transcript)

Chief of the faculty news paper during college years. I was also the class representative.

Besides that I have 8 years of professional piano training (but that was long ago)with honors. Also I am a long distance runner (participated at various marathons along the years).

In the second round I also intend to apply to Harvard MBA but in combination with MPA-ID program from Kennedy school. I still feel I need a few good but now too good schools to make sure I pass this year. I had a hard time with the gmat. I had 1 failures before the I passed I during my time in PwC had no time to really work on it. So basically I intended to apply 2 years ago so now I really need to make it though wither to an excellent school or a good one.

Thank you in advance for your replies,

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by essaysnark » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:28 am
Hi Elly --

Your profile looks really strong! In fact -- and we so rarely can say this -- you might be in very good shape for Stanford. Of course, it's good that you're considering additional schools for Round 2, since you never know, right? And, it always comes down to the essays. Most schools need to see a really good written presentation - we're a bit concerned about that part only because of the relatively lower verbal score on your GMAT. Congrats on the awesomeness on your quant side though!! We're also wondering about the GPA - is that 3.96 from a conversion, and if so, who did it or how did you come by it? 3.96 is exceptionally high, we rarely ever see anyone with grades that strong (especially if there were two others ahead of you in ranking), so that's why we're asking.

Anyway... A woman from Eastern Europe who's done such interesting things already, and has lived/studied in the US before, is an appealing profile for many schools. We have a few posts on our blog about what active Rd 1 candidates should be thinking about for Rd 2 - here's one: https://essaysnark.blocked/2011/10/ ... to-do.html We'll be posting more along these lines this week, too.

The way you need to select additional schools comes down mostly to your career goals. With your strong stats and the basics of your profile, the doors are open to you to apply where you want. It's up to you to convince the school that they're the perfect fit for you, based on what you want to do with the MBA. So, we'd need to get a little more info on the goals before recommending any other program. But essentially, you *should* be able to target most any top bschool, given what you have to offer in the profile you bring.

That probably doesn't help much, right? :-)

We'd guess that you may want to stay in consulting, in which case Kellogg would be a great fit for you. Tuck might be as well, although many international candidates prefer to go to bschool in a city (Tuck is in New Hampshire and it's quite remote). Wharton would be another good option since they have so much focus on the international students; Columbia, too. These are all still very very competitive schools, so if you're asking about a "safety school" then none of these would qualify. But, they all could potentially be options for you.

If you want to fill us in on your ideas after graduation, then we can probably be of more use in this conversation. :-)

Mostly we want to encourage you - you could be in good shape with bschool this year (again, provided those essays are strong!!).

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by Jon@Admissionado » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:50 pm
Wow! Two years of lurking. That's some serious undercover work!

It looks like you have a very nice profile, with your experience, the GMAT score, the piano playing.

As to whether or not you should apply to the best of the best only, or also add some backup schools, that's up to you. The question to ask yourself is "Would I rather go to schools XX (Say for example NYU) this year? OR if I get it, would I wait for next year, because I only want a top 5 school?" When you yourself know the answer to the question, then you will know what to do.

However, given your profile, I don't think you need to go toooooo far down the list, and can continue to apply to "other best" schools such as Fuqua, Tuck, Haas, NYU, Chicago, Columbia

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by beatit85 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:42 am
Essaysnark, first of all let me thank your effort and quick reply. I really didn't expect to get a feedback THAT fast! Also I am very grateful for your encouragement because so far I had 2 profile evaluations from MBA consultancy companies, and they were very skeptical about my chances. Well, maybe that's their way of saying that I really need their help... I think an opposite strategy would work better in my case :) No need to say I didn't use their services.

I agree, it was a mistake not to write about my post MBA plans. In fact I just re-read my own message and noticed a bunch of mistakes. No wonder you might question my essay writing abilities. I apologies for the inaccuracies, I was at the office and very un-willing to get caught by my boss.

Ok, back to your message. To answer your question about GPA, I really don't know if I am the 3rd or the 1st, but only the 3 of us graduated with distinction. However I'd rather play it safe and report top 3, then be called a liar because of a 0.01 points :P. And yes, my grade is a conversion from the local grading system. In original grading scale my final result was 9.90 out of 10 possible. The rest of the class falls far behind us so not everybody had such grades.

So how did I get to that GPA... well, my way to an MBA is quite long. I already knew I wanted to do an MBA by the time I turned 18. So for the past 8 years whatever I did was somehow related to that goal. I knew that a strong GPA was part of the success so I was a bit obsessed with the grades back in the college days. I spent A LOT of time with the books. Maybe I had to take it easier and get involved in more extra-curricular activities, but I also had to work part time (btw I forgot to mention that in my previous post), so studying less wouldn't have helped me much.

As for my GMAT, yes I had a hard time with the verbal section... But I just realized that I reported a lower verbal score then I actually have. I got 37 in my verbal section, not that it makes a big difference... Anyway, I started out from 27, so I was very happy to have that improvement and didn't feel like wasting any more time and money with the test. I think I bought every book / test available on the market - the entire Veritas and Manhattan sets, Knewton, Kaplan, Gmatclub tests and so on. And you were right, my essays could actually become a very very good subject for you blog :) I am sure it would be really entertaining for some of your readers :D However, everything I write is HEAVILY edited by my uncle, who is a Chicago Booth MBA alumni and my brother, who has a Master degree and a PhD in Publiuc Administration from Harvard Kennedy School. So the essays are not a major concern for me, as my bro and uncle clearly know what they are doing. Well, I hope they know :)

After the MBA I will go straight into consultancy. However, I am interested in strategic consulting that involves traditional business consulting, policy analysis and design and intermediation between international firms and governments. I was thinking about NERA Economic consulting or Charles River Associates as potential employers after graduation. Maybe I will start something on my own, on a latter stage. Actually the "policy analysis" component is the reason why I am thinking about the joint degree MBA/MPA-ID program from Harvard. That would be an excellent fit, but as I said before I expect the best, but getting prepared for the worst.

And thank you for the school suggestions; I will definitely apply to the Kellog and Tuck school in the second round. God, that post is getting really really long, so I think I will stop here...

Thx again!
Elly

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by essaysnark » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:06 am
Hi Elly--

With even more info about you we're even more confident - it sounds like you're doing everything right. We are still slightly concerned about that 3.96 GPA and so you should doublecheck that before using it in any official way. There are services that can convert grades for you, one is called WES (we're not affiliated with them but they seem to be accepted as a reliable company by bschools in the US) - think it's www.wes.org (?). Many schools actually want you to report your original ranking so just use the 9.90 out of 10 unless they insist that you do some conversion. Columbia might be the only one that does. If you're going for Columbia then just be very, very conservative when you convert. If they think that you're too generous with the scores you report, they may reject for that reason alone! No matter what, the grades are impressive - it's actually more important to get good grades in university than to do a bunch of extracurriculars, so your priorities seem to have been in the right place all along!

A 37 GMAT verbal is also quite good, you're in fine shape with the basic stats in your profile. (We're a bit concerned about essays being "heavily edited" by others - essays need to be your own work and it can backfire to get too many voices mixed in - but we're gonna leave that one alone for now! :-) )

As to your career goals: As you surely know, all top schools send plenty of graduates to consulting, so you can pick most any one you want for the basics of that career. If you are going to do that public policy slant, then you actually might want to look at a school like Georgetown - even though it's much more middle-of-the-pack on the McDonough bschool side, it's got great connections (obviously!) in DC and the public sector. Or, another obvious one since your brother has done it, HBS with Kennedy - oh wait, you already said that. :-) The East Coast schools tend to be stronger for any type of public policy angle with the exception of Stanford since Stanford is god at everything. But you already applied there, too. :-)

What we're trying to say is, it sounds like you should be in good shape (depends on the essays of course - we say this to EVERYONE!! not just you) and you have a lot to choose from! If there are other questions we can try and tackle for you, let us know!

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by throughmba » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:33 am
Hi Elly

Did you miss Tepper MBA/PUBLIC POLICY & MANAGEMENT. It is good to go with your profile too.
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