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by uwhusky » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:12 am
I don't think there is an answer to a question like this one. For example, someone without an adequate grammar background and without constant practice in math will probably score in the mid 500's, whereas someone that is in his/her senior year in an Ivy League college will probably score 750+.

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by Victory_GMAT » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:28 am
ssgmatter wrote:what is the maximum one can score in verbal by just doing OG 12, VERBAL SUPPLEMENT 2 nd edition and all the gmatprep verbal questions only?
GMAT Official Guides are designed as a one stop solution for verbal abilities of test takers. The answer is "it depends". Someone who is non-native speaker of American English will certainly need more resources and practice. It depends on the existing level of grammar of test taker. It depends on existing level of reading abilities of test taker. It depends on existing reasoning abilities of test taker. One can score beyond 45 only with Official Guide if he/she does not have other issues to address. The background matters - A Political science or Geology undergraduate from an American University will certainly face less issues than someone who read, learned British commonwealth English which is less about accuracy of expression but more about personifications and metaphors.

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by David@VeritasPrep » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:13 pm
As the previous two posts have indicated, what you bring to the table will limit what you get from the Official Guides. If you "get it" right from the start, then all you need are the official practice questions and the explanations provided. If you find that you are getting 9 out of 10 in all three types of verbal questions, then you probably are ready to try yourself against the real thing...If you are getting only 5 out of 10 right then you may need some additional assistance.

One thing that I like to have students do when practicing verbal in the OG is to mix things up a little. Remember that the questions are in order of difficulty, so it may help to take a number, like 3, and do every 10th problem: 3, 13, 23, 33, 43, etc. This way each time you practice you get a range of difficulties. Then the number you get right out of 10 will be meaningful. As you get nearer the test you will also want to mix question types, like 2 CR, then 2SC, then a passage, etc.

Are you are worried about difficulty and you think that the OG questions may not be tough enough? Or are you thinking that you may need more strategies? Or do you just wonder if anyone has ever "beat the gmat" using only the OG? The answer to the last question is "yes" it can be done.

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by nehs » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:14 pm
I had the same question on my mind :-D
I too do not have time for many different souces. I am just using the OG - 12 and OG - verbal for questions. As for the concepts/strategy, I refer to MGMAT SC, MGMAT CR, Powerscore CR and Kaplan MAth work book.
Hope that helps :-)

I am curious to know too,on what score we can expect if we solve OG 12 thoroughly with our basic quant and verbal concepts in place, atleast 600? Let me know if anyone has this answer

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by uwhusky » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:26 pm
Solving questions alone won't give you 600+ score, but learning and memorizing how to solve them will.

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by ssgmatter » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:29 am
Thankyou for sharing your perspectives.

Actually, I am just trying to understand that is the level of Verbal in OG is same that can fetch you a decent verbal score of around 38-40 bracket.......i have done enough material in the past and i realise that learning from OG is the key i guess....

in nutshell m just to gauge the level of CR and RC questions in OG 12 and verbal supplement with the real gmat and ofcourse the verbal quetions from gmatprep
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by David@VeritasPrep » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:30 am
The level of difficulty of the questions in the OG 12 and the verbal supplement is appropriate for the official test. It is a little below the most difficult questions on test day but not too much.. The questions in the official GMATPrep test are at all levels of difficulty. So if you are scoring well on the verbal on that test you should face questions that are at the correct level of difficulty.

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by ssgmatter » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:49 am
David@VeritasPrep wrote:The level of difficulty of the questions in the OG 12 and the verbal supplement is appropriate for the official test. It is a little below the most difficult questions on test day but not too much.. The questions in the official GMATPrep test are at all levels of difficulty. So if you are scoring well on the verbal on that test you should face questions that are at the correct level of difficulty.

Good Luck!
Thankyou David for sharing your thoughts and perpectives.

It was really helpful. One thing that i have noticed during the practise of verbal questions from LSAT and GMAT is that LSAT options are easier to eliminate but in GMAT one will always get stuck in two options in CR and RC i guess....

i believe it is closeless of those two options that actually make the question difficult...Does this make sense?
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