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Very basic DS question

by aimscore » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:49 am
Question from Princeton Math Workout

What is the value of q?

1. q = square root of 9
2. |q| = 3

It says the answer is A, since square root of 9 is 3.
Statement 2 |q| = +/-3 .Therefore it is insufficient.


Can the square root of 9 be +/- 3 since it does not mention what kind of number q is?
Shouldnt the answer be E?
Can someone pls explain.
Source: — Data Sufficiency |

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by uwhusky » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:51 am
Bye Princeton, hello Manhattan!

You should consider picking up a Number Property book from MGMAT instead.
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by aimscore » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:56 am
Thanks uwhusky.
will grab the manhattan book :) but for the moment, could u please explain the answer in a little more detail

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by Brian@VeritasPrep » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:27 pm
Hey aimscore:

I don't want to criticize out of context, as that question may have some surrounding lesson to it that has a lot of value, but you won't see that application of the square root rules on the official GMAT. The very fact that we're discussing it right now demonstrates that it's not a good GMAT question - an intelligent, capable test-taker would be more than justified in selecting the "wrong" answer here, or at least in struggling to determine which application of the rule to choose, and that isn't a proper way to determine which MBA candidates are better prepared.

Here's the general rule of thumb for square roots and their negative/positive solutions:

Whenever you see x^2 = _____ and are asked to solve for x, you have to remember that there's a negative and positive root (unless x is 0). This is the Data Sufficiency application, usually - or really any logical reasoning with roots type applications (problem solving question that ask "which of the following must be / cannot be true" will use the same ideology). If this were a true GMAT problem they'd give you that setup (q^2 = 9) and your answer would be correct.


When they give you the radical sign (sqrt 9 = x), that's more of a calculation-based question in a problem solving context, and there they only want you to use the positive square root. The only reason they'll do this is if they want you to calculate using roots, in which case having multiple +/- possibilities make it impossible to solve, say:

sqrt 32 + sqrt 50

Here, they want you to simplify those and calculate (4 sqrt 2 + 5 sqrt 2 = 9 sqrt 2), and it wouldn't make sense to have the possibility for negatives in there.

The way you're thinking is perfect - it's much more important for you to recognize and keep in mind the first application, because that's the one that can trap you. The second? That one's hard to screw up...it's pretty intuitive that you wouldn't solve four different problems there (+, -; +, +; -, +; -, -), and since the answer choices would all be all positive you're pretty much stuck using the positives.


Summary: Even if it means getting this question wrong, please, please keep thinking the way you're thinking about roots and you'll be in great shape!
Brian Galvin
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by aimscore » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:28 pm
Thanks a lot Brian for the explanation !!!

I googled to finally read on some website that when the symbol/radical sign is used, I am supposed to use only the principal/non-negative root. Your detailed explanation confirmed my understanding.

Hopefully there will not be any kind of dubious questions on the GMAT !!!