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by magic monkey » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:16 am

I am repolishing my words in AWA, but I get very confused about the subtle difference between positions of the "am". Could anyone help me figure it out. Please tell me why in terms of the grammar. thanks a lot!

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1. Is "am" here right or good in a formal writing?

2. Should "am" concedes "even" or follows it? (and am even/ and even am)

3. Is it better if I replace "am" with "be"?

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by Jim@StratusPrep » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:00 am

The sentence structure in general is a bit confusing. What do you give credence to? I know that it is focus on official material but it takes too much reading to get there. Simplify your delivery and keep your thoughts clear - don't stuff too much info in each phrase.

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by magic monkey » Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:08 pm

Jim@StratusPrep wrote:The sentence structure in general is a bit confusing. What do you give credence to? I know that it is focus on official material but it takes too much reading to get there. Simplify your delivery and keep your thoughts clear - don't stuff too much info in each phrase.

I will take your advice, thanks~!

but I'm still confused about the grammar here. (just suppose that there's one, then how should I use "am" here? Because I'v never seen an "am" used without following "I", didn't know if it's ok?? )

Please don't feel annoyed about my extra questions. Could you answer my following questions, thanks a lot!!

1. Is "am" here right or good in a formal writing?

2. Should "am" concedes "even" or follows it? (and am even/ and even am)

3. Is it better if I replace "am" with "be"?

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by magic monkey » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:17 pm

so no one try to specifically answer my questions here? please just focus on "even" and "am".

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by lunarpower » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:17 am

i received a private message about this thread.

the basic message of jim's post is on point: this is not worth worrying about at all. first, tiny issues like this will have no effect on your overall essay score. second, the essay is the least important part of the test anyway.

additionally, the AWA essay is definitely not the kind of thing on which you should be "repolishing" your words. you should just focus on crafting a decent, cohesive argument that actually makes sense; that should already occupy the entire time you get for the essay.

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there is, of course, nothing wrong with the word "am".
you won't see it in gmat SC problems, because none of those sentences are written in the first person ("i"/"we"). (incidentally, none of them are written in the second person "you", either.)
"i give ... and am ..." is a parallel structure. 2 verbs. if you replace "am" with "be" -- which isn't a verb -- you get a nonsense construction.
the word order here isn't easy to explain, and is way beyond the scope of anything you should be worrying about at this point.

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by magic monkey » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:17 pm

lunarpower wrote:i received a private message about this thread.

the basic message of jim's post is on point: this is not worth worrying about at all. first, tiny issues like this will have no effect on your overall essay score. second, the essay is the least important part of the test anyway.

additionally, the AWA essay is definitely not the kind of thing on which you should be "repolishing" your words. you should just focus on crafting a decent, cohesive argument that actually makes sense; that should already occupy the entire time you get for the essay.

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there is, of course, nothing wrong with the word "am".
you won't see it in gmat SC problems, because none of those sentences are written in the first person ("i"/"we"). (incidentally, none of them are written in the second person "you", either.)
"i give ... and am ..." is a parallel structure. 2 verbs. if you replace "am" with "be" -- which isn't a verb -- you get a nonsense construction.
the word order here isn't easy to explain, and is way beyond the scope of anything you should be worrying about at this point.

It's quite incisive, especially the "crafting" part and "am/be" part. Thank you for clarifying this subtle difference here!
I even thought no one would reply it again. So moving~ thanks again!

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by lunarpower » Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:34 am

magic monkey wrote:It's quite incisive, especially the "crafting" part and "am/be" part. Thank you for clarifying this subtle difference here!
I even thought no one would reply it again. So moving~ thanks again!

you're welcome.