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by ssgmatter » Wed May 19, 2010 8:03 am
The general availability of high-quality electronic scanners and color printers for
computers has made the counterfeiting of checks much easier. In order to deter such
counterfeiting, several banks plan to issue to their corporate customers checks that
contain dots too small to be accurately duplicated by any electronic scanner currently
available; when such checks are scanned and printed, the dots seem to blend together
in such a way that the word "VOID" appears on the check
A questionable assumption of the plan is that
A. in the territory served by the banks the proportion of counterfeit checks that
are made using electronic scanners has remained approximately constant over
the past few years
B. most counterfeiters who use electronic scanners counterfeit checks only for
relatively large amounts of money
C. the smallest dots on the proposed checks cannot be distinguished visually
except under strong magnification
D. most corporations served by these banks will not have to pay more for the new
checks than for traditional checks
E. the size of the smallest dots that generally available electronic scanners are
able to reproduce accurately will not decrease significantly in the near future.

Let me share my take on this one
arg says available scanners and printer has made counterfeiting easy.....so to stop this banks plan to issue checks that contain dots too small to be duplicated by scanner....if somebody tries to scan and print dot would seem to look like VOID
Now options eliminatino
i easily eliminated option A, B D
C arg talks about scanner and not human eye i mean visual so it is out
I marked E for this one using POE.....
But I am not able to reason out why E is correct/wrong here
Please explain
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by kevincanspain » Wed May 19, 2010 8:06 am
ssgmatter wrote:The general availability of high-quality electronic scanners and color printers for
computers has made the counterfeiting of checks much easier. In order to deter such
counterfeiting, several banks plan to issue to their corporate customers checks that
contain dots too small to be accurately duplicated by any electronic scanner currently
available
; when such checks are scanned and printed, the dots seem to blend together
in such a way that the word "VOID" appears on the check
A questionable assumption of the plan is that
A. in the territory served by the banks the proportion of counterfeit checks that
are made using electronic scanners has remained approximately constant over
the past few years
B. most counterfeiters who use electronic scanners counterfeit checks only for
relatively large amounts of money
C. the smallest dots on the proposed checks cannot be distinguished visually
except under strong magnification
D. most corporations served by these banks will not have to pay more for the new
checks than for traditional checks
E. the size of the smallest dots that generally available electronic scanners are
able to reproduce accurately will not decrease significantly in the near future.

Let me share my take on this one
arg says available scanners and printer has made counterfeiting easy.....so to stop this banks plan to issue checks that contain dots too small to be duplicated by scanner....if somebody tries to scan and print dot would seem to look like VOID
Now options eliminatino
i easily eliminated option A, B D
C arg talks about scanner and not human eye i mean visual so it is out
I marked E for this one using POE.....
But I am not able to reason out why E is correct/wrong here
Please explain


What if scanners available in the near future can accurately reproduce dots that are much smaller than the smallest dots that currently available scanners can reproduce? Would the word 'void' appear if these new scanners were used to counterfeit the cheques?
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by ssgmatter » Wed May 19, 2010 8:09 am
kevincanspain wrote:
ssgmatter wrote:The general availability of high-quality electronic scanners and color printers for
computers has made the counterfeiting of checks much easier. In order to deter such
counterfeiting, several banks plan to issue to their corporate customers checks that
contain dots too small to be accurately duplicated by any electronic scanner currently
available
; when such checks are scanned and printed, the dots seem to blend together
in such a way that the word "VOID" appears on the check
A questionable assumption of the plan is that
A. in the territory served by the banks the proportion of counterfeit checks that
are made using electronic scanners has remained approximately constant over
the past few years
B. most counterfeiters who use electronic scanners counterfeit checks only for
relatively large amounts of money
C. the smallest dots on the proposed checks cannot be distinguished visually
except under strong magnification
D. most corporations served by these banks will not have to pay more for the new
checks than for traditional checks
E. the size of the smallest dots that generally available electronic scanners are
able to reproduce accurately will not decrease significantly in the near future.

Let me share my take on this one
arg says available scanners and printer has made counterfeiting easy.....so to stop this banks plan to issue checks that contain dots too small to be duplicated by scanner....if somebody tries to scan and print dot would seem to look like VOID
Now options eliminatino
i easily eliminated option A, B D
C arg talks about scanner and not human eye i mean visual so it is out
I marked E for this one using POE.....
But I am not able to reason out why E is correct/wrong here
Please explain
Thankyou Kevin for your thoughts.

Can you please explain this using the negation technique or something in a more elaborated manner.....Somehow I am not able to relate option E to the argument here.......I mean I am not able to understand the meaning of option E

Please share your more detail analysis on this issue...

Many thanks!
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by kevincanspain » Wed May 19, 2010 8:11 am
State E in your own words: let's see if you are having trouble with the English
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by paddle_sweep » Wed May 19, 2010 8:15 am
IMO the answer is [spoiler]'E'[/spoiler]. If you negate [spoiler]'E'[/spoiler] the argument falls apart.

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by ssgmatter » Wed May 19, 2010 8:17 am
kevincanspain wrote:State E in your own words: let's see if you are having trouble with the English
Here is my take on E

it says that size of the smallest dots that scanners are able to reporduce accurately will not decrease significantly in near future..

But I am not able to relate this to the argument here.....
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by ssgmatter » Wed May 19, 2010 8:24 am
I am confused as to how the size of dots matter in near future...we are talking about the current tech.
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by kevincanspain » Wed May 19, 2010 8:26 am
Without looking at the text, tell me what the bank proposes to do! I don't think you've internalized the proposal
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by ssgmatter » Wed May 19, 2010 8:32 am
kevincanspain wrote:Without looking at the text, tell me what the bank proposes to do! I don't think you've internalized the proposal
Well the bank plans to issue checks that contain dots too small to be accurately duplicated by any scanner currently available..............This is what the proposal is from Bank
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by ssgmatter » Wed May 19, 2010 8:46 am
Let me try again

bank proposal in my sense is banks issue checks with dots that are too small that cannot be accurately duplicated by scanner
is this the conclusion?
i think arg is assuming that scanners are not going to get any better
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by kevincanspain » Wed May 19, 2010 10:17 am
You got it!
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by ssgmatter » Thu May 20, 2010 6:21 am
kevincanspain wrote:You got it!
Let me try once more.....

Here is option E says that the size of the smallest dots that generally available electronic scanners are
able to reproduce accurately will not decrease significantly in the near future.

Now the arg assumes that scanners will not get any better saying that the dots bank will put on the checks would be so small that it will not be duplicate by scanner currently avaible

However if we negate option E here it says that size of smallest dots that scanners in future can produce accurately will decrease significantly in near future but the arg says that such scanner does not exist and will not be there in future....so E destroys the conclusion of the arg

Please add anything if you feel I missed out on something here....

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by kevincanspain » Thu May 20, 2010 7:33 am
However if we negate option E here it says that size of smallest dots that scanners in future can produce accurately will decrease significantly in near future but the arg says that such scanner does not exist and will not be there in future....so E destroys the conclusion of the arg


Not quite: the arugment assumes that such a scanner will not exist in the near future.

The converse of E weakens the argument
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by ssgmatter » Thu May 20, 2010 7:38 am
kevincanspain wrote:However if we negate option E here it says that size of smallest dots that scanners in future can produce accurately will decrease significantly in near future but the arg says that such scanner does not exist and will not be there in future....so E destroys the conclusion of the arg


Not quite: the arugment assumes that such a scanner will not exist in the near future.

The converse of E weakens the argument
So that means E weakens the arg by saying that small dots will decrease in size in future due to availability of such scanners which can produce the dots accurately....while the arg assumes that such a scanner will not exist in near future so there will be no need to reduce the size of the dots on the checks....

I think I am now getting it........
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