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by lunarpower » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:56 pm
EricLien9122 wrote:Hey Ron, thanks for the amazing explanation, but I am still not sure if C is sufficient, because the neither statement stated that the "middle" number is equal to 1000.

So...we can have -20,-10, 9999, 10000, 10001

median=9999

we also can have...

-20,-10,1000,1001,1002

median=1000

Since we can't pinpoint a specific value, shouldn't E be the right answer?

Thank you in advance Ron, I appreciate your comments.
in my explanation above, i gave the correct answer to this problem, as originally written, as (e): both statements taken together are still insufficient.

the answer is (c) if you have the following modified version of the problem:
what is the median of a set of numbers?
(1) more than half of the numbers are > 1000.
(2) more than half of the numbers are < 1000.
THIS problem has answer (c), but the problem under discussion has answer (e), as i stated in my post.
your examples work correctly, by the way.
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by 4meonly » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:45 am
lunarpower wrote: i can explain this in more detail if anyone so desires.
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by lunarpower » Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:07 am
by request!

i was asked to explain the following further:
lunarpower wrote:the answer is (c) if you have the following modified version of the problem:
what is the median of a set of numbers?
(1) more than half of the numbers are > 1000.
(2) more than half of the numbers are < 1000.
THIS problem has answer (c).
here's the reason why.

in the following, imagine that you put the numbers in order from left to right.

for clarity, i'll split the discussion into two cases: (1) sets with an ODD number of data, and (2) sets with an EVEN number of data.


-- CASE 1: sets with an odd number of data --

in this case, there is one middle value (median); let's call it M.

statement 1:

say the orange numbers are > 1000:
# # # ... # # M # # ... # # #
in this case, LESS than half of the numbers are > 1000.

now, say the orange numbers are > 1000:
# # # ... # # M # # ... # # #
in this case, MORE than half of the numbers are > 1000.

taking these two examples together, you should be able to see that, if more than half of the data are > 1000, then the median must be > 1000.

therefore, statement 1 implies that the median > 1000.
this is still insufficient to answer the problem, though, because the median could be any number > 1000.

statement 2:

say the orange numbers are < 1000:
# # # ... # # M # # ... # # #
in this case, LESS than half of the numbers are < 1000.

now, say the orange numbers are < 1000:
# # # ... # # M # # ... # # #
in this case, MORE than half of the numbers are < 1000.

taking these two examples together, you should be able to see that, if more than half of the data are < 1000, then the median must be < 1000. note that this argument is exactly symmetric to the argument used to interpret statement 1.

therefore, statement 2 implies that the median < 1000.
this is still insufficient to answer the problem, though, because the median could be any number < 1000.


if we have both statements together, then the median is both > 1000 and < 1000. the only way that can be true is if the median is actually 1000.
therefore (c).
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