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by suchoudh » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:33 pm
An amendment to section 362 of the Veterans' Benefits Amendments of 1989 authorizes a clothing allowance for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing.

a) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

b) for certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

c) to certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

d) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

e) to certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing


Please explain your answers.

OA D
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by this_time_i_will » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:44 pm
C looks good.
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by ayushiiitm » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:48 pm
imo...c

Correct use of who....modifies veteran
Idiom allowance to

And which modifies the devices

Also wear out or tear is better than wear or tear
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by pnk » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:23 pm
suchoudh wrote:
a) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing (which modifies devices=>decices wear/tear clothing)

b) for certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing (which modifies devices=>decices wear/tear clothing

c) to certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

d) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

e) to certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing (which modifies devices=>decices wear/tear clothing

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C vs D; C - who use modiifes veterans & D - using modifies veterans (briefer than C) => IMO D (it appears, Allowance for is thr right idiom - but am not sure)
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by ayushiiitm » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:38 pm
i think -ing form is used to modify clause, so a relative pronoun who could be used to modify noun veterans

Allowance for/to both could be correct depending on cotext
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by sanabk » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:33 pm
B) for certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing
-> allowance for is the correct idiom
-> who refers to veterans
-> which refers to devices
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by er_priyankajolly » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:14 pm
C is the best choice because of following reasons
1) for proper sense at the last part of sentence we need "wear out or tear clothing"
So we are left with C and D
2)Now "allowance for" and "allowance to" both are correct but
the usage is different
"allowance to somebody"
"allowance for something"

Since we are talking about allowance to vetran we will go with C
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by reply2spg » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:34 pm
How can it be C.


C ....An amendment to section 362 authorizes a clothing allowance to certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing. - which tear out modifies devices....C talks about two different things, C is very confusing.....it says devices themselves wear out.....IMO this is not correct

E .....An amendment to section 362 authorizes a clothing allowance to certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing....IMO this is correct

IMO E

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by er_priyankajolly » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:25 pm
reply2spg wrote:How can it be C.


C ....An amendment to section 362 authorizes a clothing allowance to certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing. - which tear out modifies devices....C talks about two different things, C is very confusing.....it says devices themselves wear out.....IMO this is not correct

E .....An amendment to section 362 authorizes a clothing allowance to certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing....IMO this is correct

IMO E

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I just now got a explaination from an expert who said that constructions like "veterans using prosthetic " refee to an on-going/continuous action by the doer.Here we dont want to refer to a continuous action rather people who do it.So I still feel C is better.Whats wrong in saying devices wear out themselves. "Tear clothing" also modifies devices.
Its One exception to "touch rule "---- if a modifier is a series of parallel modifiers and if one of them touches the noun then the second modifier also modifies the noun
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by martin.jonson007 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:52 am
Very Tough Ques.... Indeed...!

Require Ron or Stacy on this one...

Can somebody send PM to them asking them to look at this one..... or tell how to send PM...
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by kvcpk » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:01 am
What is wrong with option B? I thought "allowance for" is the right idiom. Isnt it so?
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by GMATGuruNY » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:22 am
suchoudh wrote:An amendment to section 362 of the Veterans' Benefits Amendments of 1989 authorizes a clothing allowance for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing.

a) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

b) for certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

c) to certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

d) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

e) to certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing


Please explain your answers. OA later.
What is the source of this question?

None of the answer choices would be correct on the GMAT. In each answer choice the pronoun which needs to replaced with the pronoun that.

Here's why:

The pronoun which is used to introduce a phrase or clause not necessary for the meaning of the sentence:

Seals, which are mammals, like to play in the water.

Notice that the clause which are mammals is preceded by a comma. That's because we can remove the which clause without changing the meaning of the sentence:

Seals like to play in the water.

In the SC above, the phrase wear out or tear clothing is necessary for the meaning of the sentence. That's why no comma precedes the phrase. The phrase should be introduced by the pronoun that:

...a clothing allowance for veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices that wear out or tear clothing.

So on the GMAT none of the answer choices would be correct.
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by martin.jonson007 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:29 am
GMATGuruNY wrote:
suchoudh wrote:An amendment to section 362 of the Veterans' Benefits Amendments of 1989 authorizes a clothing allowance for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing.

a) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

b) for certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

c) to certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

d) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

e) to certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing


Please explain your answers. OA later.
What is the source of this question?

None of the answer choices would be correct on the GMAT. In each answer choice the pronoun which needs to replaced with the pronoun that.

Here's why:

The pronoun which is used to introduce a phrase or clause not necessary for the meaning of the sentence:

Seals, which are mammals, like to play in the water.

Notice that the clause which are mammals is preceded by a comma. That's because we can remove the which clause without changing the meaning of the sentence:

Seals like to play in the water.

In the SC above, the phrase wear or tear clothing is necessary for the meaning of the sentence. That's why no comma precedes it and the phrase should be introduced by the pronoun that:

...a clothing allowance for veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices that wear or tear clothing.

So on the GMAT none of the answer choices would be correct.
That / Which was minor issue , which we already knew...

just consider THAT on all places where WHICH is mentioned...

now which option will be correct...?

Thanks!
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by GMATGuruNY » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:01 am
martin.jonson007 wrote:
GMATGuruNY wrote:
suchoudh wrote:An amendment to section 362 of the Veterans' Benefits Amendments of 1989 authorizes a clothing allowance for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing.

a) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

b) for certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

c) to certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

d) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

e) to certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing


Please explain your answers. OA later.
What is the source of this question?

None of the answer choices would be correct on the GMAT. In each answer choice the pronoun which needs to replaced with the pronoun that.

Here's why:

The pronoun which is used to introduce a phrase or clause not necessary for the meaning of the sentence:

Seals, which are mammals, like to play in the water.

Notice that the clause which are mammals is preceded by a comma. That's because we can remove the which clause without changing the meaning of the sentence:

Seals like to play in the water.

In the SC above, the phrase wear or tear clothing is necessary for the meaning of the sentence. That's why no comma precedes it and the phrase should be introduced by the pronoun that:

...a clothing allowance for veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices that wear or tear clothing.

So on the GMAT none of the answer choices would be correct.
That / Which was minor issue , which we already knew...

just consider THAT on all places where WHICH is mentioned...

now which option will be correct...?

Thanks!
The correct idiom is that you authorize an allowance for someone. Eliminate C and E.

Avoid words that end in -ing. Eliminate A and D.

So we're left with B.

But since the question is inherently flawed, I'm hesitant to deem any answer choice correct.
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by martin.jonson007 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:04 am
GMATGuruNY wrote:
martin.jonson007 wrote:
GMATGuruNY wrote:
suchoudh wrote:An amendment to section 362 of the Veterans' Benefits Amendments of 1989 authorizes a clothing allowance for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing.

a) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

b) for certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing

c) to certain veterans who use prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

d) for certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear out or tear clothing

e) to certain veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices which wear or tear clothing


Please explain your answers. OA later.
What is the source of this question?

None of the answer choices would be correct on the GMAT. In each answer choice the pronoun which needs to replaced with the pronoun that.

Here's why:

The pronoun which is used to introduce a phrase or clause not necessary for the meaning of the sentence:

Seals, which are mammals, like to play in the water.

Notice that the clause which are mammals is preceded by a comma. That's because we can remove the which clause without changing the meaning of the sentence:

Seals like to play in the water.

In the SC above, the phrase wear or tear clothing is necessary for the meaning of the sentence. That's why no comma precedes it and the phrase should be introduced by the pronoun that:

...a clothing allowance for veterans using prosthetic or orthopedic devices that wear or tear clothing.

So on the GMAT none of the answer choices would be correct.
That / Which was minor issue , which we already knew...

just consider THAT on all places where WHICH is mentioned...

now which option will be correct...?

Thanks!
The correct idiom is that you authorize an allowance for someone. Eliminate C and E.

Avoid words that end in -ing. Eliminate A and D.

So we're left with B.

But since the question is inherently flawed, I'm hesitant to deem any answer choice correct.
That's Great...! Sounds reasonable...!

Thanks...!

so no issue for wear out /wear .. ? is it fine with WEAR only...

i read the post , wch is modified later on... :)
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