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by vineetasaxena » Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:06 pm
A recent study by psychologists found that the main goal of most middle school students is to be viewed as popular by their classmates. The psychologists also found that the students who seek to be popular will only take as friends other students who share the goal of achieving popularity. Therefore, the psychologists argued, any middle school students who strive to impress their teachers will not make friends with most of their classmates.

The argument put forth by the psychologists assumes that

A. achieving popularity is often not done by a single individual, but rather by a group of children.
B. middle school students do not regard as popular anyone who strives to impress a teacher.
C. a student can impress a teacher by not fraternizing with the popular crowd of students.
D. most middle school children believe that those who strive to impress a teacher do not have the goal of achieving popularity.
E. middle school students are known to be particularly cruel to classmates that are considered different from the norm.
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by kstv » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:05 am
IMO B
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by bigmonkey31 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:55 am
i think... B

The argument makes a logic leap, and B puts in the necessary facts of the assumption.
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by Phirozz » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:58 am
IMO is C. because a student can impress a teacher by not fraternizing with the popular crowd of students. based on this assumption it can be said that middle school students who strive to impress their teachers will not make friends with most of their classmates
vineetasaxena wrote:A recent study by psychologists found that the main goal of most middle school students is to be viewed as popular by their classmates. The psychologists also found that the students who seek to be popular will only take as friends other students who share the goal of achieving popularity. Therefore, the psychologists argued, any middle school students who strive to impress their teachers will not make friends with most of their classmates.

The argument put forth by the psychologists assumes that

A. achieving popularity is often not done by a single individual, but rather by a group of children.
B. middle school students do not regard as popular anyone who strives to impress a teacher.
C. a student can impress a teacher by not fraternizing with the popular crowd of students.
D. most middle school children believe that those who strive to impress a teacher do not have the goal of achieving popularity.
E. middle school students are known to be particularly cruel to classmates that are considered different from the norm.
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by bigmonkey31 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:17 am
I don't think C is right because of the definiteness of the verbs that are used (i.e. "can impress"). If the wording was..... "a student impresses a teacher[...]" then yes C is correct. But the fact that the answer choice uses 'can', there is the possibility that a student may not impress the teacher by not fraternizing with the popular kids.
Phirozz wrote:IMO is C. because a student can impress a teacher by not fraternizing with the popular crowd of students. based on this assumption it can be said that middle school students who strive to impress their teachers will not make friends with most of their classmates
vineetasaxena wrote:A recent study by psychologists found that the main goal of most middle school students is to be viewed as popular by their classmates. The psychologists also found that the students who seek to be popular will only take as friends other students who share the goal of achieving popularity. Therefore, the psychologists argued, any middle school students who strive to impress their teachers will not make friends with most of their classmates.

The argument put forth by the psychologists assumes that

A. achieving popularity is often not done by a single individual, but rather by a group of children.
B. middle school students do not regard as popular anyone who strives to impress a teacher.
C. a student can impress a teacher by not fraternizing with the popular crowd of students.
D. most middle school children believe that those who strive to impress a teacher do not have the goal of achieving popularity.
E. middle school students are known to be particularly cruel to classmates that are considered different from the norm.
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by delhiboy1979 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:15 am
What s wrong with D, anyone explain. Cant see much of a difference between B and D
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by Phirozz » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:50 am
delhiboy1979 wrote:What s wrong with D, anyone explain. Cant see much of a difference between B and D

We need to prove that strive to impress a teacher and popularity are two disjoint sets, i mean a person cannot belong to both to validate the conclusion.

Both option B and D satisfy the same but conclusion is sth "any middle school students who strive to impress their teachers will not make friends with most of their classmates." Due to the use of word "will", assumption should be sth confirm the conclusion.

And in option D, many most children believe, but there are few who do not believe the same. But assumption should be sth which confrms the conclusion without any exception because it uses "will", so due to use of word "believe" it cannot be the answer option.

whereas B solve the same because it uses do , middle school students do not regard as popular anyone who strives to impress a teacher.
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by Osirus@VeritasPrep » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:56 am
delhiboy1979 wrote:What s wrong with D, anyone explain. Cant see much of a difference between B and D
D is wrong because the assumption is about what the teacher is impressed with or impressed by. With option D, what the students believe is irrelevant. The conclusion is that teachers are impressed by students who are unpopular or students that don't associate with the popular students. That is the underlying assumption, so both B and D are irrelevant because they address what the students believe rather than what the teacher believes. Choose C
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by boazkhan » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:54 am
What is OA?
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by gmatmachoman » Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:33 am
boazkhan wrote:What is OA?
IMO D
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by nervesofsteel » Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:59 pm
vineetasaxena wrote:A recent study by psychologists found that the main goal of most middle school students is to be viewed as popular by their classmates. The psychologists also found that the students who seek to be popular will only take as friends other students who share the goal of achieving popularity. Therefore, the psychologists argued, any middle school students who strive to impress their teachers will not make friends with most of their classmates.

The argument put forth by the psychologists assumes that

A. achieving popularity is often not done by a single individual, but rather by a group of children.
B. middle school students do not regard as popular anyone who strives to impress a teacher.
C. a student can impress a teacher by not fraternizing with the popular crowd of students.
D. most middle school children believe that those who strive to impress a teacher do not have the goal of achieving popularity.
E. middle school students are known to be particularly cruel to classmates that are considered different from the norm.
IMO D

students will make someone as a friend who has a goal of achieving popularity...not the one who is popular or unpopular ...

Thus if students don't believe that the students who impress teachers have a goal of achieving popularity
then they will not make those students as friends...

OA plz..?
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by amazonviper » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:54 pm
IMO B. OA please
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by neha.patni » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:16 am
Answer - D because for the conclusion to be true only statement D acts as a correct premise
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by Phirozz » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:18 am
neha.patni wrote:Answer - D because for the conclusion to be true only statement D acts as a correct premise
let say there are 100 students and 70(has to be more that 50 because of most) seek to be popular and 30 strive to impress teacher.
We need to find an option which can prove that these two(popularity and impressing teacher) are disjoint sets because psychologists argued that any middle school students who strive to impress their teachers will not make friends with most of their classmates, it means not even a single middle class student who strive to impress teacher seek to be popular.
Now come to option D, most students(not all) believe that those who strive to impress a teacher do not have the goal of achieving popularity, it means there are few students who can have both the goals which flawed the psychologist's claim which says that not even a single person who strive to impress teacher can have most classmates as frnds.
this is why D cannot be the answer
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by vineetasaxena » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:42 pm
The answer was D and so it is still confusing. Can anyone give me the reason why it should be D. I chose C but it was wrong.
A recent study by psychologists found that the main goal of most middle school students is to be viewed as popular by their classmates. The psychologists also found that the students who seek to be popular will only take as friends other students who share the goal of achieving popularity. Therefore, the psychologists argued, any middle school students who strive to impress their teachers will not make friends with most of their classmates.

The argument put forth by the psychologists assumes that

A. achieving popularity is often not done by a single individual, but rather by a group of children.
B. middle school students do not regard as popular anyone who strives to impress a teacher.
C. a student can impress a teacher by not fraternizing with the popular crowd of students.
D. most middle school children believe that those who strive to impress a teacher do not have the goal of achieving popularity.
E. middle school students are known to be particularly cruel to classmates that are considered different from the norm.
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