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positive integer m

by shahdevine » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:34 pm
What is the value of positive integer m?

(1) The remainder when any integer is divided by m is less than 5.
(2) The remainder when any integer is divided by m is an even number.

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by bharathh » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:17 pm
IMO B

1 is insufficient because m could be 1,2,3,4 or 5

2 is sufficient because only if m=1 can the remainder of any division be even ... i.e Any number divided by 1 has a reminder of 0 which is considered an even number.

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by PussInBoots » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:19 pm
Right on bharathh

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by shahdevine » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:27 am
bharathh wrote:IMO B

1 is insufficient because m could be 1,2,3,4 or 5

2 is sufficient because only if m=1 can the remainder of any division be even ... i.e Any number divided by 1 has a reminder of 0 which is considered an even number.
so the bigger takeaway is, are all remainders of improper fractions odd? Are they even only if the divisor is 1, because remainder in that instance will equal 0? For example, 6/4 has an even remainder. But does it not count because it can be reduced to 3/2?

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by bharathh » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:15 am
Any number divided by 1 has a remainder 0 which is even.

Any other other will not be so.

Take 2 ... All numbers divided by 2 will have either an odd remainder (1) or an even number (0)

Take 3 All remainders will be either even (0,2) or odd (1)

No number other than one can only have an even remainder. Don't worry about fractions in this question

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by vzzai » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:12 pm
I find these questions very tough to understand and arrive at a solution. Could someone guide me as to how to approach these problem or tell me a source from where i could practice few? Does pluggin help?
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by Blues » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:48 am
vzzai wrote:I find these questions very tough to understand and arrive at a solution. Could someone guide me as to how to approach these problem or tell me a source from where i could practice few? Does pluggin help?
Hi Vzzai,

Data Sufficiency is still kicking my butt to some extent, so I may not be the best person to answer this question. However, I've found the Manhattan GMAT series to be awesome. The number properties was an area of weakness for me, but after going to the MGMA Number Properties guide, I feel like I have a firm grasp of all the concepts. Using their information in conjunction with OG12 has helped me immensely.

My only struggle now is with trying to decipher what exactly DS questions are asking me, and what they are giving me. I can figure it out if I stare at it long enough, but 2 minutes is still a challenge for me.

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by vzzai » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:36 am
Thank you Blues. I will browse through Manhattan.
I read princeton review book and it guides me plug in numbers to solve helps most of the number related problems.
My problem is, I can put the DS question into a meaningful formula, but when I try pluggin in numbers (trying to see -2, 0 , 1, 1/2 etc) to arrive at a range of values that satisfy that equation, I eat up time, energy and I'm completely lost. Curious to know, if that any other strategy that works instead of plugging in numbers?
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by Blues » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:14 am
vzzai wrote:Thank you Blues. I will browse through Manhattan.
I read princeton review book and it guides me plug in numbers to solve helps most of the number related problems.
My problem is, I can put the DS question into a meaningful formula, but when I try pluggin in numbers (trying to see -2, 0 , 1, 1/2 etc) to arrive at a range of values that satisfy that equation, I eat up time, energy and I'm completely lost. Curious to know, if that any other strategy that works instead of plugging in numbers?
Hi vzzai,

I started out with PR as well. The book was quite disappointing, in my opinion. If your goal is a middling to decent score, then it's probably enough to give you some tips and tricks. I didn't feel, however, that the book did enough to emphasise the underlying concepts. If tricks were enough to get a high score on the GMAT, everyone would have scores greater than 700. Despite all the high achievers on this forum, it's quite rare to get a 700+. I know I'm probably stating things you already know, but it's something I had to conciously acknowledge to keep from getting too discouraged. Confidence is huge going into the GMAT, and I can't afford to think of myself as a failure right from the start!

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:20 am
shahdevine wrote:What is the value of positive integer m?

(1) The remainder when any integer is divided by m is less than 5.
(2) The remainder when any integer is divided by m is an even number.

OA after some discussion.
Target question: What is the value of positive integer m?

Statement 1: The remainder when any integer is divided by m is less than 5.

Useful rule concerning remainders: When positive integer N is divided by positive integer D, the remainder R is such that 0 < R < D
For example, if we divide some positive integer by 7, the remainder will be 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, or 0

Given the above rule, statement 1 basically tells us that m is less than or equal to 6.
So, m could equal 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 1 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: The remainder when any integer is divided by m is an even number.
How is this possible?
If we're not sure, let's IGNORE statement 2 and see what happens with different values of m.
m = 5. If we divide some positive integer by 5, the remainder will be 4, 3, 2, 1, or 0 (some odd and some even)
m = 4. If we divide some positive integer by 4, the remainder will be 3, 2, 1, or 0 (some odd and some even)
m = 3. Here, the remainder will be 2, 1, or 0 (some odd and some even)
m = 2. Here, the remainder will be 1, or 0 (one odd and one even)
m = 1. The remainder will be 0 (EVEN) AHA!!!
This is the only case where the remainder MUST BE EVEN.
So, it must be true that m = 1

Since we can answer the target question with certainty, statement 2 is SUFFICIENT

Answer: B

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