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by jaiti » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:03 am
reply2spg wrote:you answered me number 2 issue, what about number 1 issue?

ok agree that Kindergartners and 1-6 grades goes to elementry school. By looking at C how can you tell for sure that 6th grade students are not loosing dark colored bags in school?
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reply2spg wrote:I do not agree with you on this. C says number of things, which are not clear.

1. It says backpacks in the lost-and-found at elementary schools are dark-colored - how can you make out that only lower grade students are missing their bags?
2. Passage does not talk about whether it is elementry school, graduate school or kinder garten? But C is limiting us only to elementry school.

These 2 issues are unanswered, therefore, I don't think C is correct.

Can we have OA for this.

jaiti wrote:
beatthegmatinsept wrote:
jaiti wrote:I am wondering if all of you are maybe wrong on this one. Number one rule for streghtening an argument is to bring something new to the passage, remove another possibility per say. Here C does that exactly. If the bookbags in lost and found were mostly bright colored the teacher's argument would fall apart. However since most of the bookbags lost are dark colored, we removed a possibility of another event occuring, therefore strenghtening an argument.
I was contemplating between C and E myself.
But I eliminated C because even though it says that most of the lost bags are grey in color, we can't assume that had these bags been bright colored they won't have been lost by the kids. E on the other hand is that assumption that brighter colored bags are harder to lose by young kids. So I'd go for E.
Ok. Then let me ask you this. If the option C said that most of the bookbags lost were bright colored wouldn't that make teachers argument fall apart. Teacher says that the bags should be bright colored in order for kids not to lose them. If C weren't true it would cause the teachers argument to fall apart a lot more then, E in which "studies" and "objects" are listed. I could be wrong very well though. Why doesn't the OP post the OA so that we can all see.



I don't think that lower grades can refer to anything but elementary schools. Kindergartners and 1-6 grades go to the same school. You think that "studies" and "objects" and "young students" in E are clearer?
I am not sure what you are asking here? Are you asking me why can't the lower grades refer to say 7th grade? I could ask you why in E couldn't "young students" be freshmen in high school? I think elementary school is lot closer to lower grades than "young freshmen" in high school. Not to say that studies are often wrong and we have no idea whether or not "objects"tested in those studies had bookbags as subjects.
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by reply2spg » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:16 am
@jaiti - I sent you PM. Please check.
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by beatthegmatinsept » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:31 am
Can the starter of this post, please post the OA asap? I am getting really curious now :)
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by paes » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:13 pm
IMO E

C : Most of the missed/found objects are dark object -> does not prove that the colored objects have less probability of missing.
It might be that most of the students are coming with dark objects only, so obviously most of the miss objects will also be dark objects.

OA please.
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by diebeatsthegmat » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:00 am
pradeepkaushal9518 wrote:Teachers recommend that students in the lower grades bring brightly colored backpacks to school. They justify this recommendation by claiming that brightly colored backpacks are easier to see, and thus more difficult for young students to lose.

Which of the following, if true, most strengthens the teachers' recommendation?

A Students with poor vision report lost backpacks more often than students with perfect vision.
B Most students who lose their backpacks claim that it is because they took the wrong backpack by mistake.
C Most of the backpacks in the lost-and-found at elementary schools are dark-colored.
D Bright-colored backpacks tend to sell better than dark-colored backpacks.
E Studies show that young students are less likely to leave behind bright-colored objects.
i am confused between C and E . Man, this argument is insane because its not very clear as it is in CR OG

lose here is lose what? the student or the backpack? lol its really ..../......
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by beatthegmatinsept » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:29 pm
OA Please!!
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by puneetdua » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:25 am
There was a lenghthy conversation between Jaiti and reply2spg - but didnt have enought courage to read that -
IMO E -
OA please!
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by nehaberi86 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:00 am
Between C and E, Answer should possibly be E - as it strengthens the stimulus to a greater extent.
In option C, there is still a possibility that bright colored bags will be lost just as much as dark colored ones.
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by beatthegmatinsept » Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:43 pm
Is the OA of this very interesting question ever going to be posted by the original starter of this thread? It seriously makes no sense for us users to keep discussing a question for days, without getting to know what the actual answer is to that question!!

Experts please help and give your input, if possible.
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by pradeepkaushal9518 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:39 pm
sorry guys actually i was not focusing on CR as i m weak in RC and sc. but u can comeout with right answer yaar when lot of persons choose same option

oa for this question is E
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by reply2spg » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:03 pm
Thanks Pradeep and yes you have posted good questions.

I hope Jaiti will agree with the OA :)
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by beatthegmatinsept » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:38 pm
pradeepkaushal9518 wrote:sorry guys actually i was not focusing on CR as i m weak in RC and sc. but u can comeout with right answer yaar when lot of persons choose same option

oa for this question is E
Just what we wanted to hear after the long wait :)
Good question dude!
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