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by logitech » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:37 pm
Public-access cable television was created in the 1970s as a means to derive public benefit from the laying of private television cables on public land.



a) from the laying of private television cables on public land

b) from laying private television cables on the public land

c) by the laying of private television cables on the public's land

d) from private television cables being laid on public land

e) by laying private television cables on land that was public

OA A

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by ikumaran » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:49 pm
Hi can get an explanation for this answer...

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by vivek.kapoor83 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:54 pm
I think , 'by laying' is more appropriate than 'from laying' here .So, It comes down to C & E. and E is more appropriate.

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by amitabhprasad » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:00 pm
@vivek.kapoor
The idiom is derive X from ...
so we are down to "A" and "B".
But I am confused how to rule "B" out as OA is "A"

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by vishubn » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:27 pm
a) from the laying of private television cables on public land

b) from laying private television cables on the public land

c) by the laying of private television cables on the public's land

d) from private television cables being laid on public land

e) by laying private television cables on land that was public
Derive X from Y .....

C and E is elliminated

D -- being passive !!

B - changes the meaning !!

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Re: cable television

by iamcste » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:38 pm
logitech wrote:Public-access cable television was created in the 1970s as a means to derive public benefit from the laying of private television cables on public land.



a) from the laying of private television cables on public land

Noun/gerund. Derive X from Y, X=Public benefit, Y=the laying of
Can be considered parallel although this idiom doesnt really require that
b) from laying private television cables on the public land

Participle phrase

c) by the laying of private television cables on the public's land

d) from private television cables being laid on public land

e) by laying private television cables on land that was public

OA A

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by vivek.kapoor83 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:50 pm
idioms gonna kill..........
thanks guys..i didnt knw the idiom

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by Abdulla » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:20 pm
I eliminated C,D and E but confused btw A and B ..

Do we have to assume that the Original sentence is always contains the correct meaning?
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by logitech » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:40 pm
Abdulla wrote:
Do we have to assume that the Original sentence is always contains the correct meaning?
That's a wonderful question Abdulla. And I am really looking forward to know the answer to this question.
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by mals24 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:20 am
Agree with iamcste

The idiom is derive X from Y where X and Y should be parallel.

X = public benefit - noun phrase
Y = the laying of private television cables on public land - noun phrase

In B

X = public benefit
Y = laying private television cables on the public land - participial phrase.

A noun phrase is NEVER parallel to a participial phrase.

You can change a participial phrase (-ing or -ed form) to a noun phrase by adding an article (a, an, the) before the participial. So choose A.

@ Abdulla
Thanks for asking this question. This question confuses me as well. But from what I have learnt is that if you are down to 2 options the original choice (A) and some other, and the only difference between them is of change in meaning go with the original.
But would definitely like to see an expert or any one else sure about this rule to comment.

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by jimmiejaz » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:07 am
Logitech,

Another approach for this question. Please let me know if am correct.
As we know, the correct idiom is derive X from Y
we can eliminate C and E.

In D, we have being which is passive and we prefer active voice so eliminate it.
Now between A and B, B uses 'the public land' which makes the reference to a particular land and hence changes the meaning of the sentence.
This is Unjustified.
Hence, Ans is A.
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by logitech » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:00 am
Jimmiejaz,

I like the way you think. One more thing:

Public-access cable television was created in the 1970s as a means to derive public benefit from the laying of private television cables on public land.

a) from the laying of private television cables on public land

derive X from Y , where both X and Y are nouns

b) from laying private television cables on the public land

Removing THE makes laying a gerund and it acts like a working verb. This chance distorts the parallelism.

and THE PUBLIC is awkward.

Any comments ?
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by iamcste » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:21 am
jimmiejaz wrote:Logitech,


In D, we have being which is passive and we prefer active voice so eliminate it.
Hence, Ans is A.
This error is already covered. Pls see my comment in thread

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by iamcste » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:23 am
logitech wrote:Jimmiejaz,

I like the way you think. One more thing:

Public-access cable television was created in the 1970s as a means to derive public benefit from the laying of private television cables on public land.

a) from the laying of private television cables on public land

derive X from Y , where both X and Y are nouns

b) from laying private television cables on the public land

Removing THE makes laying a gerund and it acts like a working verb. This chance distorts the parallelism.

and THE PUBLIC is awkward.

Any comments ?
HI Logitech, All these points are covered by me in my post on the same question...

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by logitech » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:25 am
iamcste wrote: HI Logitech, All these points are covered by me in my post on the same question...
Can I re-state them, if you don't mind ? :)
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