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by pawanagarwal » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:00 pm
In the engineering sector at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for we recent graduates to get started on our careers.

A) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for we
B) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us
C) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact that makes it difficult for us
D) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us
E) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact which makes it difficult for we

OA is C. But if someone can explain why, that will be great
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by kaulnikhil » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:19 pm
pawanagarwal wrote:In the engineeriing sector at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for we recent graduates to get started on our careers

A) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for we--Wrong referend (which) refers to experience..doesnt make sense.
B) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us--same as A
C) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact that makes it difficult for us--that preferred since which is used for nonessential phrases.
D) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us--same as A
E) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact which makes it difficult for we--refer C

OA is C. But if someone can explain why, that will be great
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by Target2009 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:59 pm
IMO - C ... OA plz
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by 800target » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:49 am
Thanks dude, Good question.

Can you name the source of this question? Is it any of OG's or GmatPrep one?
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by Brian@VeritasPrep » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:36 pm
Pretty slick question, and let me echo kaulnikhil's explanation in a lot of ways.

You know that you're responsible for modifiers, and modifiers that begin with the word "which" are pretty clear - "which" must modify the word that comes directly next to it. So A, B, and D are out.

This is a pretty important strategic point - I don't know that it's altogether clear whether you couldn't say "In the engineering sector at the moment there are no jobs..." instead of "In the engineering sector there are no jobs at the moment..." - even though that's the first section of the underline, if you don't know that it's a decision that you're wholly capable of making, look to see if there's a more definite decision point. Here, "which" eliminates A and B (thereby making that decision for you), and narrows you down to two choices.

One other point on C vs. E - the choice between "us" vs. "we" is one of object vs. subject. Often times on those (like whom vs. who) the word that they might select is tougher to distinguish, so try this - replace "we" (or "who") with "he" (a pronoun only used as a subject) and "us" (or "whom") with "him" (an object pronoun) and try it out.

It is difficult for he to find a job..

vs.

It is difficult for him to find a job...

By using your own noun in subject/object determinations it can be a lot clearer which is necessary. Here, you need to use "him" (the object pronoun), so you'd have to use "us" as an object, and C is the only correct answer.
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by anirudhbhalotia » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:44 pm
I didn't quite get it.

I think D makes better sentence.
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by aspirant2011 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:47 am
Hi Brian,

I couldn't get your explanation. The confusion which I have in your explanation is that are "we & us" not both subect.

I would be really thankful to you if you can explain a little more on the same.
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by badpoem » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:32 am
IMO (C)


A) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for we --> which modifies experience - incorrect.

B) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us --> same as above.

C) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact that makes it difficult for us ---> on hold.

D) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us --> same as A/B.

E) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact which makes it difficult for we ---> whom does it make difficult for? Ans: For Us. --> So C.
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by tgou008 » Mon May 02, 2011 1:20 pm
Oooh this question got me. I initially picked D, but after reading the responses I see where I tripped up. The first and only distinction I picked up on was the 'we' vs. 'us'; which meant I was able to eliminate A and E off the bat. Nothing else jumped out at me so I ended up going with D, which means I missed the 'which' thing altogether.

Brian (or whoever else is keen to respond) - on the 'which' point; is the correct way to think of a which modifier is that refers directly to the word before it i.e., 'experience'. So the reason it is incorrect, is bc it would be wrong to say "....no jobs at the moment for those without experience, experience makes it difficult for us..".
Can someone please confirm if this is the correct way to think about the which modifier in this question? I'd really like to confirm this so that I can apply the rule correctly going forward.

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by ankurmit » Wed May 04, 2011 4:43 am
I am still consfused between C and E.

Not able to distinguish between 'Us' and 'we' here.
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by LalaB » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:11 pm
all wrong words are bold
In the engineering sector at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for we recent graduates to get started on our careers.

A) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for we
B) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us
C) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact that makes it difficult for us-Good!
D) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us
E) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact which makes it difficult for we

OA is C.
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by LalaB » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:14 pm
ankurmit wrote:I am still consfused between C and E.

Not able to distinguish between 'Us' and 'we' here.
E answ choice has a wrong word WE. u dont say it is difficult for I. u say -it is difficult for me. so in here is the same. it is wrong to say -it is difficult for we. u should say -it is difficult for us

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by GmatKiss » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:31 am
A) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for we
B) at the moment there are no jobs for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us
C) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact that makes it difficult for us
D) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, which makes it difficult for us
E) there are no jobs at the moment for those without experience, a fact which makes it difficult for we
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by navami » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:54 am
Which wrongly modifies EXPERIENCE in option A B and D.

in C and E 'that' is a better choice. But most important part is choice of we vs US...
replace them with He and HIM respectively..


u should be able to choose C
This time no looking back!!!
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by gunjan1208 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:52 am
Great Question. I got stuck in between C & E and finally chose E. Whoops!
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