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by Kumar007 » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:53 am
If there are more than two numbers in a certain list , is each of the number in the list equal to 0?

1. The product of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.
2. The sum of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.

The answer is B.Can someone explain me the answer also what is wrong with C.
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Source: — Data Sufficiency |

by Jose Ferreira » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:06 pm
Hi,

Statement 1 says that the product of any two numbers is zero.

This could be true if the numbers are all zero: 0, 0, 0.
It could also be true if one of the numbers is non-zero and the remainder are zero: 0, 0, 7.
(Every time we choose two, at least one of them will be zero. Since the product of zero and any other number is zero, we are okay with one non-zero number. We would NOT be okay with two non-zero numbers, since their product would be non-zero.)

Statement 2 says that the sum of any two numbers in the list is equal to 0.

This can clearly be the case if all of the numbers are zero: 0, 0, 0.

Let's try to build a list of more than two numbers that meets the condition and that contains a non-zero number:

Let's start with the non-zero number 2. Note that the only number we can add to 2 that gives us a sum of 0 is (-2).

As long as the list has only two numbers, we are in good shape: 2, -2. The sum of any two numbers on this list is zero. But we are told that the list has more than two numbers. What happens when we add a third number?

If we add another 2, we will have 2, 2, -2. This creates a problem, since 2 + 2 = 4.
If we add another -2, we will have 2, -2, -2. This also creates a problem, since -2 + -2 = -4.
So we can't add either 2 or -2. We also can't add any other number to the list and have each pair of numbers sum to 0.

This same reasoning will apply for any non-zero number we choose.

Algebraically, we could say that if the first non-zero number is N, the second must be -N. If we add a third number X, the list is N, -N, X.
According to the rule, N + X = 0 must be true, AND (-N) + X = 0 must be true.
So, X = -N AND X = N. This is impossible! (Unless X and N are both zero, in which case we are back to a list that has nothing but zeros.)

Since there is no way to pick three non-zero numbers in a way that allows all three pairs of two numbers to add up to zero, Statement 2 tells us that all of the numbers in the list must be zero. The correct answer is B. [spoiler](C is incorrect because Statement 1 is not necessary to reach this conclusion.)[/spoiler]
Jose Ferreira
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by 1947 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:04 pm
Though I understand the solution now, but I have a question.
This question is based on a trick that set of numbers can be {0,0,0,Any Number}
Then the multiplication of any 2 numbers will always be 0

I did not get this trick while giving the mock....
How to ensure that u do this right ?
and how tough is this considered ? I know if u get this trick it will be solved very quickly.
Experts please throw some light.
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by navami » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:16 am
You will opt C if eithr A or B is not sufficient.
In this problem Option 2 is suffient.
Imagine there are 3 numbers in the list.

0 1 0

The sum of any two numbers can always be zero only and only if all numbers are zero.

Hence B is the ans
This time no looking back!!!
Navami
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