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by jamesk486 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:51 am
Rita and Sam play the following game with n sticks on a table. Each must remove 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 sticks at a time on alternate turns, and no stick that is removed is put back on the table. The one who removes the last stick (or sticks) from the table wins. If Rita goes first, which of the following is a value of n such that Sam can always win no matter how Rita plays?

A. 7
B. 20
C. 22
D. 12
E. 16

I dont even understand the question!

the OA is D
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by BlueRain » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:10 am
The point of the game is to leave 6 sticks on the table for Rita @ the end. Reason being with 6 sticks left, Sam always wins.
Rita picks 1, Sam picks 5, Sam wins
Rita picks 2, Sam picks 4, Sam wins
Rita picks 3, Sam picks 3, Sam wins, etc.

Working backwards from that, have n being a multiple of 6 will always result in Sam's favor, as long as Sam keeps the remaining number a multiple of 6 as well.

When there is 12,
Rita pick 1, Sam picks 5, 6 sticks remain, Sam wins (see above)
So on...

Hope this helps.

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by evansbd » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:19 am
Is there another way to solve this problem algebraically?

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by sudhir3127 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:27 pm
The simple logic here is to understand that in order to win sam has to maintain the number of sticks a multiple of 6. the only answer choice which satisfies this is 12.

hence the answer is 12.

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by ildude02 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:51 pm
sudhir3127 wrote:The simple logic here is to understand that in order to win sam has to maintain the number of sticks a multiple of 6. the only answer choice which satisfies this is 12.

hence the answer is 12.
Why are we not considering that if Rita picks 5 of 12, then they are still 7 left and then if Sam picks the rest of the 5, then Rita gets the chance to win by picking the last 2?

Are we saying that they only are supposed to pick ONCE ? Which part of question clarifies that?

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by Scott@TargetTestPrep » Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:02 pm
jamesk486 wrote:Rita and Sam play the following game with n sticks on a table. Each must remove 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 sticks at a time on alternate turns, and no stick that is removed is put back on the table. The one who removes the last stick (or sticks) from the table wins. If Rita goes first, which of the following is a value of n such that Sam can always win no matter how Rita plays?

A. 7
B. 20
C. 22
D. 12
E. 16

I dont even understand the question!

the OA is D
Let's go through the choices.

A. 7

Since Rita goes first, she can remove only 1 stick. (If she removes any other number of sticks, then Sam will be able to win on his next turn.) Then there are 6 sticks left, and no matter how many sticks Sam removes, Rita will always win (for example, if Sam removes 2 sticks, Rita can then remove 4 sticks for the win). Since we want Sam to win, choice A is not the correct answer.

B. 10

Since Rita goes first, she can remove 4 sticks. Then there are 6 sticks left, and no matter how many sticks (up to the 5-stick limit) Sam removes on his turn, Rita will win on her next turn. Thus, there is no way Sam can win.

C. 11

Since Rita goes first, she can remove 5 sticks. Then there are 6 sticks left, and just as in the explanation for answer choice B, there is no way Sam can win.

D. 12

Since Rita goes first, she can remove any number of sticks, from 1 to 5 (inclusive). Then Sam can remove a number of sticks so that there are 6 sticks left. For example, if Rita removes 2 sticks, Sam should remove 4 sticks so that there are 6 sticks lefts. Once there are 6 sticks left and since it's now Rita's turn, no matter how many sticks she removes, Sam will always win (for example, if Rita removes 5 sticks, Sam can then remove 1 stick for the win).

Answer: D

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