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Assumption Question / Restating

by gmatusa2010 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:59 pm
Came across this one that took a bit of time. I ultimately got it right but had trouble eliminating the wrong answer. Can someone walk through how they eliminated the wrong answers quickly? Thanks.


Educator: By itself, the expert advice delivered in a workshop setting does not cause a young writer to be able to craft short stories; rather, the repeated effort of writing new stories in the context of a short-story workshop can be a cause. hen any individual writes many short stories, the quality of that person's stories inevitably increases. As a result, the new short-story workshops offered by this school will increase the quality of short stories written by students.

The conclusion drawn by the educator follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

A) The new short-story orkshops offered by the school will increase the number of its students who wwrite a significant number of new short stories.

E) Any young writer, regardless of his or her ability to craft short stories, can improve through repeated efforts at writing.


(I would write the other choices but they are woefully bad choices that is not even worth considering).
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by gmatusa2010 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:07 pm
I used the negation method in this one and got into more trouble than worth it.
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by reply2spg » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:10 pm
E ????
gmatusa2010 wrote:Came across this one that took a bit of time. I ultimately got it right but had trouble eliminating the wrong answer. Can someone walk through how they eliminated the wrong answers quickly? Thanks.


Educator: By itself, the expert advice delivered in a workshop setting does not cause a young writer to be able to craft short stories; rather, the repeated effort of writing new stories in the context of a short-story workshop can be a cause. hen any individual writes many short stories, the quality of that person's stories inevitably increases. As a result, the new short-story workshops offered by this school will increase the quality of short stories written by students.

The conclusion drawn by the educator follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

A) The new short-story orkshops offered by the school will increase the number of its students who wwrite a significant number of new short stories.

E) Any young writer, regardless of his or her ability to craft short stories, can improve through repeated efforts at writing.


(I would write the other choices but they are woefully bad choices that is not even worth considering).
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by [email protected] » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:16 pm
IMO- E ????? What is the OA


gmatusa2010 wrote:Came across this one that took a bit of time. I ultimately got it right but had trouble eliminating the wrong answer. Can someone walk through how they eliminated the wrong answers quickly? Thanks.


Educator: By itself, the expert advice delivered in a workshop setting does not cause a young writer to be able to craft short stories; rather, the repeated effort of writing new stories in the context of a short-story workshop can be a cause. hen any individual writes many short stories, the quality of that person's stories inevitably increases. As a result, the new short-story workshops offered by this school will increase the quality of short stories written by students.

The conclusion drawn by the educator follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

A) The new short-story orkshops offered by the school will increase the number of its students who wwrite a significant number of new short stories.

E) Any young writer, regardless of his or her ability to craft short stories, can improve through repeated efforts at writing.


(I would write the other choices but they are woefully bad choices that is not even worth considering).
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by neha.patni » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:28 pm
gmatusa2010 wrote:Came across this one that took a bit of time. I ultimately got it right but had trouble eliminating the wrong answer. Can someone walk through how they eliminated the wrong answers quickly? Thanks.


Educator: By itself, the expert advice delivered in a workshop setting does not cause a young writer to be able to craft short stories; rather, the repeated effort of writing new stories in the context of a short-story workshop can be a cause. hen any individual writes many short stories, the quality of that person's stories inevitably increases. As a result, the new short-story workshops offered by this school will increase the quality of short stories written by students.

The conclusion drawn by the educator follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

A) The new short-story orkshops offered by the school will increase the number of its students who wwrite a significant number of new short stories.

E) Any young writer, regardless of his or her ability to craft short stories, can improve through repeated efforts at writing.


(I would write the other choices but they are woefully bad choices that is not even worth considering).

IMO E
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by dream700 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:06 pm
Troublesome question. IMO the ans is A.

E it seems, already stated in the stem. A premise which is already stated can't be an assumption.

On the other hand, if we negate A,


A) The new short-story workshops offered by the school will NOT increase the number of its students who wwrite a significant number of new short stories.

>> This tells us that effectively the new short-story workshops will not help increasing the no. of people writing good short stories. This contradicts the conclusion. Hence A should be an assumption.


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by selango » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:36 pm
IMO E.

Negate option E.

Any young writer, regardless of his or her ability to craft short stories, cannot improve through repeated efforts at writing.

This weakens the argument "when any individual writes many short stories, the quality of that person's stories inevitably increases".

Negate option A

The new short-story workshops offered by the school will not increase the number of its students who write a significant number of new short stories.

Is negating option B weaken the argument?No.Because the argument stated that " the new short-story workshops offered by this school will increase the quality of short stories written by students."..It ll increase only the quality not number of students.

Hope this clarify
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by gmatusa2010 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:54 pm
hey dream, what if this was a strengthener? what would your answer have been? is this a hard fast rule about restated statement?

i've seen similar questions to this except it is a weakener and one of the choices contradicts a premise so obviously it is going to weaken the conclusion. how do you treat these? (I will try to find the examples from my notes and post for discussion). I've seen this appear alot either restatement of a premise or a claim that is exactly opposite of that premise as part of a weakner/strengthener. Any experts can chime in on how you treat these? (From experience they have not been the correct answer but I don't want to make a hard a fast rule about it)./ THanks.

selango wrote:IMO E.

Negate option E.

Any young writer, regardless of his or her ability to craft short stories, cannot improve through repeated efforts at writing.

This weakens the argument "when any individual writes many short stories, the quality of that person's stories inevitably increases".

Negate option A

The new short-story workshops offered by the school will not increase the number of its students who write a significant number of new short stories.

Is negating option B weaken the argument?No.Because the argument stated that " the new short-story workshops offered by this school will increase the quality of short stories written by students."..It ll increase only the quality not number of students.

Hope this clarify
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by selango » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:59 pm
What is OA?
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by gmatusa2010 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:13 am
OA is A. Selango i did the same analysis as you (although i do think negated A still weakens it just weakens less than E). But thats besides the point. The correct answer here seems to imply that restated statements are no good.

Dream: What if this question is a must be true/ inference? How would your answer be different? One one hand E absolutely have to be true for the conclusion to hold. HOwever, it doesn't have to be true because the premise already says the same thing. In absolute term E has to be true but in relative term E does not.
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by tanviet » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:28 am
On Assumption, Strenthening, and Weakning Questions, RESTATING OR CONTRADICTING EVIDENCE IS WRONG.

There is one question in OG10 (the bark to make medicine) which shows CONTRADICTING EVIDENCE is wrong

I find no question in OG which show RESTATING EVIDENCE is wrong

we have to follow OG, not to follow test pre company.

any one know a question from good source, Kaplan, Princeton, which show that RESTATING EVIDENCE is wrong, Please, post.
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by gmatusa2010 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:33 am
that question i psted is Princeton LSAT. and restated answer is wrong. thanks for the knowledge.
duongthang wrote:On Assumption, Strenthening, and Weakning Questions, RESTATING OR CONTRADICTING EVIDENCE IS WRONG.

There is one question in OG10 (the bark to make medicine) which shows CONTRADICTING EVIDENCE is wrong

I find no question in OG which show RESTATING EVIDENCE is wrong

we have to follow OG, not to follow test pre company.

any one know a question from good source, Kaplan, Princeton, which show that RESTATING EVIDENCE is wrong, Please, post.
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by gmatusa2010 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:35 am
What about must be true? "From the discussion above, the following statement must be true...."???

gmatusa2010 wrote:that question i psted is Princeton LSAT. and restated answer is wrong. thanks for the knowledge.
duongthang wrote:On Assumption, Strenthening, and Weakning Questions, RESTATING OR CONTRADICTING EVIDENCE IS WRONG.

There is one question in OG10 (the bark to make medicine) which shows CONTRADICTING EVIDENCE is wrong

I find no question in OG which show RESTATING EVIDENCE is wrong

we have to follow OG, not to follow test pre company.

any one know a question from good source, Kaplan, Princeton, which show that RESTATING EVIDENCE is wrong, Please, post.
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by dream700 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:19 am
hey gmatusa2010,

It would be great if you could post an example question and then probably we can discuss. I have found Kaplan 800 extremely helpful for assumption questions. An assumption will GENERALLY bridge the gap between the premise and the conclusion.

A does that here whereas E is just a paraphrase of the premise and so more enticing...

Must be true questions/inference questions should be dealt with completely different strategy...

e.g. An inference is something which is a paraphrase of the premise/conclusion. So E can be an inference here.

Must be true answer choice can be an inference or an obvious conclusion....

Hope this helps!

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by adi_800 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:08 pm
Is it not the case that E says something about any young writer..
And argument talks about any individual...
So that may be the reason E is wrong??
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