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by Sabira Naik » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:19 am
Testicular cancer is much more common among Caucasian men than afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with 93% of testicular cancers occurring in white males.


A. than afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with
B. than among afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with
C. than is so of afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, having
D. compared to afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, having
E. in comparison with afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with
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by avik.ch » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:23 am
Sabira Naik wrote:Testicular cancer is much more common among Caucasian men than afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with 93% of testicular cancers occurring in white males.


A. than afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with
B. than among afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with
C. than is so of afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, having
D. compared to afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, having
E. in comparison with afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with

It is A - I don't see any problem in A.

What is the OA ??
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by GmatKiss » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:48 am
IMO: B
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by Sabira Naik » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:00 am
I thought it's A too, but apparently its B. Why do we need to restate "among" ? Would appreciate if some one can explain.
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by rohit_gmat » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:08 am
Sabira Naik wrote:I thought it's A too, but apparently its B. Why do we need to restate "among" ? Would appreciate if some one can explain.
i think its to do with idioms...

more X than Y
X has among
so Y shud also have among
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by avik.ch » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:50 am
Sabira Naik wrote:I thought it's A too, but apparently its B. Why do we need to restate "among" ? Would appreciate if some one can explain.
Please refer the source of this question,

https://www.kantrowitz.com/cancer/tc.html

second last para...

just note the comparison here : more common among "Caucasian men" than X,Y,Z....(here no men is given),If you put here "among" then this would compare "Caucasian men" with X,Y,Z...( not with the the population) - distorts the original meaning of the sentence that it tries to convey.



Please provide the source and the OA.
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by mankey » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:32 pm
Originally I went for B. But on a closer look, I am little confused between A and B. Can some expert please help on this?

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by aspirant2011 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:03 am
Sabira Naik wrote:Testicular cancer is much more common among Caucasian men than afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with 93% of testicular cancers occurring in white males.


A. than afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with
B. than among afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men, with
B keeps the sentence parallel
A wrongly compares testicular cancer among caucasian men to afro american,hispanic etc men........
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by Jim@Grockit » Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:12 pm
It's the age-old question of ellipsis.

"Preetham visits Neera more than Priya" is missing essential information. Is it:

Preetham visits Neera more than he visits Priya
or
Preetham visits Neera more than Priya does?

so in situations where a comparison could be unclear, you should use the exact comparison without omitting words.
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by saketk » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:18 am
Sabira Naik wrote:I thought it's A too, but apparently its B. Why do we need to restate "among" ? Would appreciate if some one can explain.
We definitely need "among" here for clearer comparison. See the example provided by Jim.

We are comparing 2 groups. 1) Caucasian men

2) second group comprises of ' afro-American, Hispanic, Asian and native American men ' this is what the intended meaning of the sentence is.


PS: I love Jim's approach. He never reveals the OA and gives all of us the opportunity to find the correct answer
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by GmatKiss » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:33 pm
Is OA : B ?
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by Jim@Grockit » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:34 pm
saketk wrote:
PS: I love Jim's approach. He never reveals the OA and gives all of us the opportunity to find the correct answer
Hah, thanks. I don't like to reveal the OA because I don't think that does any good. The discussions you all have in these threads amount to far more material and far more utility than I could produce for you, and so I really don't want the discussion to end just because I came in and gave an answer. What you all think matters more than what I think; I just try to give you additional information to complete or add to the excellent work you all do here.
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by Cheese12 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:53 am
IMO: B
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by CaptainHaddock » Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:58 am
IMO 'B'. Parallelism.
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by gmatdriller » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:20 am
IMO A
Assuming men also get pregnant;
Its like saying either of the follwong:
Example I:

(i) Pregnancy is more common among women than men
(ii) Pregnancy is more common among women than among men

(i) appears clear and unambiguous, so no need for "among" in (ii).
By the same token, the use of the 2nd "among" in comparing the two groups of
men is unnecessary.

TC is more common among Caucasian men than afro-American men [no ambiguity here; or is there any?]
TC is more common among Caucasian men than among afro-American men.



The point is not that one is wrong and the other correct, but
of clarity and precision as stated by previous posters.

Also let's consider the examples below:

Example II

Men are more addicted to alcohol than women
Men are more addicted to alcohol than are women

In example I, we can easily spot the ambiguity. Its either
(a) men are more addicted to alcohol than are women (to alcohol)
OR
(b) men are more addicted to alcohol than they are addicted to women.
The use of the 2nd "are" clarifies the intended meaning.

Experts opinion please.
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