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Superiority

by luckylucky » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:39 pm
Once the economic and social usefulness of the motor car was demonstrated and with its superiority to the horse being proved,much of the early hostility to it in rural regions disappeared.

A) and with its superiority to the horse being
B) and its superiority over the horse had been
C) and its superiority to the horse
D) its superiority over the horse
E) with its superiority to the horse having been

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by Zipper » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:13 pm
IMO C.

A - wordy and being?

B - superiority to something I guess not over something (superior to you not superior over you) and wrong use of past perfect?

C - Sounds OK. Correct?

D and E out of the question.

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by nervesofsteel » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:48 am
IMO B-

1) Superiority over is correct usage IMO
2) and with its superiority to the horse being proved

This sentence tests the use of past and Past perfect combition to
describe two events which happened in past

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by luckylucky » Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:12 am
@ Zipper

Look at the statement given below -

"No nation should have superiority over others"

I am confused between "superiority over " and "superiority to" ..Let me know which is the correct form and when to use it.

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by yoni » Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:40 am
I think you use "to" with superior and "over" with superiority. To take the example you gave:

- "No nation should have superiority over others"
- "No nation should be superior to others"


Therefore, the answer to the question should be C.

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by luckylucky » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:08 am
@ yoni

I dint quite understand your explanation.

Is my example correct ? If yes,the usage - "superiority over" should be correct . If not, it should be "superiority to"

Also by changing "superiority over" to "superior to" dont you think that
the original meaning of the sentence is distorted?

However you were right in identifying the correct answer choice for this question... it is 'C' but i want more explanation on this topic :roll:

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by 4meonly » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:45 am
I think we should ask our experts for help.

Once the economic and social usefulness of the motor car was demonstrated and with its superiority to the horse being proved,much of the early hostility to it in rural regions disappeared.

A) and with its superiority to the horse being
being, and with its - awkward

B) and its superiority over the horse had been
superiority over is tempting
superiority had been - incorrect. As I understand this construction suggests that superiority was proved before usefulness was demonstrated

C) and its superiority to the horse ... (proved)
usefulness was demonstrated and superiority proved
We can omit second WAS
superiority to - i dont like it. Can experts confirm that this is correct idiom?

D) its superiority over the horse
we need AND

E) with its superiority to the horse having been
brrhhh. OUT

I am between C and B

On the test i will choose C

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by sjd00d » Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:16 pm
I am going with C for much of the same reasons as cited by "zipper"

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by awesomeusername » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:16 pm
C for me too

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by welcome » Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:03 pm
IMO D.

Please post OA.
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by Bidisha800 » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:11 pm
A) and with its superiority to the horse being (being is wrong)
B) and its superiority over the horse had been ( tense issue)
C) and its superiority to the horse - CORRECT
D) its superiority over the horse (no conjunction - and is required)
E) with its superiority to the horse having been
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by luckylucky » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:15 am
OA is 'C' ..

but i request some GMAt instructor to pitch in and explain the logic ...

Thanks guys for your contributions ...

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by Stacey Koprince » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:19 am
I received a PM asking me to respond.

I agree with the choice most of you have chosen: C.

Once the economic and social usefulness of the motor car was demonstrated and with its superiority to the horse being proved,much of the early hostility to it in rural regions disappeared.

Once A <happened> and B <happened>, <C followed>.
dependent compound clause, independent clause.

So, first, we need that "and" in there. Eliminate D and E. Second, the A and B in the compound clause need to be parallel.

A uses "was demonstrated" so we need something in the same tense. A uses "being proved." Nope. B uses "had been proved." Nope. C uses "proved," which also seems wrong at first glance - but as someone up above said, we don't need to repeat the "was" in this instance. This is an unusual construct (I can't recall seeing something quite like this on any official questions) but we don't need to repeat the "was" because of the parallel structure.

That allows us to narrow to C without dealing with the idiom issue (superiority to / over). I have not seen this particular idiom used on an official question, so I cannot say what the official testwriters would prefer here. Both are used in common English, which leads me to believe that either is fine, but there are cases of other common usages that the testwriters don't like and don't consider correct, so... unless they officially comment on the issue (that is, release a question with an explanation that indicates one usage is wrong), we're kind of stuck on this question.

In general, if you can solve a problem using other hard-and-fast grammar rules, do so. In this case, we know we need the "and" (eliminating D and E) and we know we need parallelism (eliminating A and B), so we can ignore the "superiority" issue altogether.
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by rahulakacyrus » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:48 am
My answer C...Please post the OA.
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