I beat the GMAT on my fifth attempt - 720 (Q49, V39)

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by vidhya16 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:50 am
Then I misssed it Eladshush... Thanks for the info

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by Bunnymin1217 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:02 pm
Thanks! Very helpful post! I will never quit!

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by nileshchakkarwar » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:08 pm
Hi eladshush,

Hearty congratulations on your achievement. It really takes guts to give gmat so many times. I must say that you really have a good self image - a thing that matters the most in real life. By the way eladshush I have also given gmat twice and even I am struggling with a score of 620. I read through your post, it was really helpful. Thank you for providing Irene's contact info. I would love to have a word with you on phone. If you don't mind doing so.... I am logged in through my facebook account you can poke me there. I don't know your real name so please refer this conversation.
Thanking you in anticipation.

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by Elad@Ready4GMAT » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:54 pm
nileshchakkarwar wrote:Hi eladshush,

Hearty congratulations on your achievement. It really takes guts to give gmat so many times. I must say that you really have a good self image - a thing that matters the most in real life. By the way eladshush I have also given gmat twice and even I am struggling with a score of 620. I read through your post, it was really helpful. Thank you for providing Irene's contact info. I would love to have a word with you on phone. If you don't mind doing so.... I am logged in through my facebook account you can poke me there. I don't know your real name so please refer this conversation.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Hi nileshchakkarwar,

Thank you for your message and kind words. Indeed this journey opened my eyes to things that matter the most in life, and it also helped me in the application process to geniouly outline my goals.
We can have a word on phone, so please send me a private message with your details (skype/Facebook).
eladshush

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by Elad@Ready4GMAT » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:42 pm
Dear friends,

I just wanted to update you that I got another 2 interview invitations - from Chicago Booth and Fuqua Duke! But unfortunately, I was rejected by Columbia to which I've submitted my application on the second round. I heard that it's rare for international students to get accepted on the second round since CBS puts a lot of emphasis on their early decision round.

Couple of weeks ago, I interviewed to Ross and the interview went pretty good. The interviewer was super nice and asked me the regular MBA questions (Walk me through your resume, big 3 Y's - Why MBA, Why Now, Why Ross - and how I function in a team).

My journey has not ended yet, but only started. I still need to make good impression so that all the hard work won't be wasted.
Tomorrow I have my interview to Chicago Booth and I am doing it on campus. Wish me luck! I will update you soon.

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by theclimb » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:52 pm
Great news! congrats. All the best for rest of the application process.
We should not fret for what is past, nor should we be anxious about the future; men of discernment deal only with the present moment.
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by vidhya16 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:25 am
Hi there,

You are aleready a great challenger and achiever. Im sure you will be accepted by the school you will consider the best. Good Luck.

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by Elad@Ready4GMAT » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:12 pm
To all my friends at beatthegmat,

As I promised, I want to update you first with the good news from MIT Sloan:

I GOT ACCEPTED TO MIT SLOAN, CLASS 2014!!

(After being placed on the waitlist at Fuqua and Booth)

I am going to write a detailed debreif very soon.

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by theclimb » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:45 pm
Congrats! you deserve it
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by anoctave » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:56 am
Congratulations on your admit!

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by emf_jay » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:03 am
awesome prep buddy...
all the best and god bless you...
ready for 750 score .... !!!

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by pitpat » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:27 am
Congratulations!!! You deserve it!!!

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by TS75 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:40 am
Congrats man for breaking 710. You deserve it. I absolutely admire the fact that you did not give up. That's the best way to go in your life.

How do i get contact info of ronaldramlan and Irene?
eladshush wrote:Dear friends,

Sorry that it took me long time to share my 5th GMAT story. It was mainly because I was overloaded with writing my applications to business schools. At least the whole effort paid off when this week I was notified that I got an interview to Ross. So exciting. So this post is dedicated to all the members in this forum that encouraged, supported, and inspired me along the way. I admire you. Let's start:

My GMAT story is a nightmare. Starting from the end, I took the GMAT exam five times in two years. I endured repeated setbacks and by persevering ultimately conquered the exam, while growing and learning much about myself along the way.

I don't want to describe again all my previous attempts (you can read it here: https://www.beatthegmat.com/610-4th-time ... 91243.html), but I will rather refer to them when comparing my 5th exam's approach with my previous exams' approaches. Before I kicked off my preparation for my 5th exam, I wanted to understand deeply my two major problems: anxiety and my low score on the Verbal (even though I consistently scored high on simulations). This time, for the latter, I decided to do study differently. I wanted to come to the test after I made some changes in the way I think, in the way I approach the exam, and in the way I solve questions. Please note that I am not going to talk about the Quantitative section because I never had problems with it and I scored 50,48,49,49. I only had difficulties with the Verbal section. Having said that, here is a list things I've changed before my last attempt:
  • 1. First and foremost - I contacted the best Verbal private tutor - Irene - who has 25 years of experience preparing students for the Verbal Section and most of her students are beating the 700 score. She is a very interesting woman - a musician who travels around the world for 6 months every year to compose and spread her music, and in the rest she teaches the Verbal section privately. (If anyone is interested send me a private message and I will connect you with her). Although Irene teaches via Skype, I preferred to meet her face to face because I wanted her to witness my approaches in action and analyze what I am doing wrong (plus - we live in the same city). At first, she gave me few SC questions to solve and asked me to write detailed solutions with everything that I know. She immediately realized my weaknesses and strengths and decided to customized her course so that it will fit my knowledge base. I can't express how much I value her, so let's summarize that she is just amazing. period.
Now some real insights on the exam. Some she taught me, and some I've figured out myself:
  • 2. Treat the exam as if you don't have the time limitation. In my previous attempts and following many advises by top GMAT tutors here, I tried to answer ALL the questions. Irene told me that this is a WRONG approach especially for international students that don't process English as native speakers, without mentioning even the reading speed. It's more important to answer the first thirty something questions (about 34) with as many correct answers in a row as you can (I can say almost without wrong answers), rather than check the clock all the time and randomly guess questions to meet some timing strategy. I was very skeptic about this approach but after I used it few time in GMAT Prep, I've realized that it actually works. Working on questions without having the time limitation significantly reduced my stress. The last few questions still need to be guessed, but if you follow that approach and you answered most questions correctly, your score won't drop to less than 35. Take a simulation exam without looking at the clock, and leave 2 minutes at the end to guess the last questions left. If you reached question 33-35, you are ready to take the exam. If you reached only 30 - keep practicing the concepts to gain more confident (the speed will come with it).
  • 3. Understand how the GMAT works. For that I used this rule of thumb:
    * Easy questions = huge fine, small bonus.
    * Hard questions = small fine, big bonus.

    This means that if you don't answer the easy questions correctly, especially at the beginning, you are going to get a huge fine. i.e. no 700 for you. You have to answer the easy and medium level questions correctly in order to start getting hard ones, otherwise the GMAT won't trust your ability and challenge you with difficult questions. Answering correctly the easy questinos is more important than answering the hard questions correctly. On the contrary, if you approached the hard level of questions, and you answered them correctly, you will get a huge bonus. If you happen to answered them wrong - not big deal - you will get a small fine.

    Keep in mind - you have to answer the easy questions correctly.
  • 4. Focus issue - this is one of the best advises I've heard from Irene which I've completely ignored - after the Quant section and the break, the mind loses its focus and your concentration level drops. So when starting the Verbal section, it takes time to gain your focus back. Now, it happened to me in 2 stages of the exam: at the beginning immediately after the break, and around the 12-14 question. This resulted always in wrong answers that dropped my score. Irene told me to just dedicate extra 30-60 seconds to read few times the question and review the answer when I enter this state. Like magic - it solved my careless errors in those stages.
  • 5. Study material - thanks to ronaldramlan and Irene, I've realized that the practice questions of ALL prep companies (yes yes, including Manhattan GMAT, Knewton, MasterGMAT, etc) are just not good! The questions format, mainly in SC and RC, is very different from the real GMAT questions, and when you practice with them, you starting to get used to recognize those patterns, even though they don't appear on the real thing. There are specific patterns according to which the real GMAT SC and RC questions are written (believe me I've analyzed thousands of questions). Irene taught me to work according to specific huge set of rules which helped me gain confidence in my knowledge answer more than 90% of the SC questions correctly. This gave me a huge advantage on the GMAT - usually SC questions considered to be more easy, so I didn't fall on easy questions. So practice only GMAT Prep or official guide questions.
  • 6. Let's drill down a bit:

    My approach to SC questions:
    • Before my 5th try, I used to read the entire question and tried to identify the errors and figure out the meaning, etc.
    • After: A big change here - I read ONLY the underlined part and immediately compared it with
      other answer questions to identify the errors tested. I was very skeptical about this
      approach and it took me long time to get used to it, but I've learned that more than 90% of
      the answer choices of GMAC GMAT questions can be grammatically eliminated, before jumping
      into meaning, etc. Be very suspicious about each word location and function in the sentence. You won't believe how man answer choices I've eliminated based on pronoun ambiguity or use of adverb instead of adjective.
    My approach to RC questions:
    • Before my 5th try, I used to read the entire passage and MAP it in my mind (main idea, author POV, purpose, etc). Then I approached the questions and jumped back to the passage to validate my answers or search for information. I didn't write anything during RC question and RC was my toughest area for me to improve.
    • After: my tutor told me the following sentence: after 2 hours of exam and under huge pressure do you really trust your brain to remember tons of unimportant details and understanding everything after reading once a really complex passages? So here another big change - apparently GMAT RC passages have tendency to pose the important information of every paragraph in the first sentence or two (I have to give credit for MasterGMAT that are using this approach, but I didn't listen to them back then). So, I quickly created a table and distilled the important information from the first sentence of each paragraph (not more than few words), and then skimmed the rest of the paragraph to find important transitions/specific information and filled the table with it. General questions - I answered based solely on my table. As for specific questions: I located the relevant area to look for in my table, and moved to read the text accordingly. This way your brain remains fresh and not filled with a lot of unnecessary information. You won't believe how many questions of RC passages focus only on one paragraph, so why spend all your time reading it all?? Again, it took me forever to master this approach, but eventually it really worked.
Lastly - I worked on myself as an individual, adapting steps in my life emphasizing relaxation and tranquility. After my 4th attempt - I was beyond devastated. My friends and family, who supported me along the way, tried to convince me to let go. But I believed in my abilities and I was determined to study an MBA in a top school next year. So I didn't let go, and neither you need to.

In summary, it was a long journey. I am happy to finish with it and I am happy to share it.
I will finish with the words of Napoleon Hill that said: Effort only fully releases its reward after a person refuses to quit.

Feel free to ask any question. I promise to do my best to answer.
eladshush

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by [email protected] » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:37 am
This post is really awesome. Could you please send me Irene's contact info. on my email ID- [email protected] or by replying to this post.I need verbal improvement very badly(booked GMAT on 29/may/2011)- 50 days from now. Currents score- 570 ( q51,v27).
God bless you for your applications.

Regards- TK