Hi Lisa,
I have a low GPA of 2.6 and an equally low GMAT score of 620 (Q40, V35).
My undergrad major was in Biomedical Engineering from an Indian University and I have 4 years of work exp with GE Healthcare.
I have worked in India, Srilanka and few months in China as well(this was a part of training program).
Ex-curricular wise I teach students as a community service which my mother started, is a member of Lions Club and invloved in other community improvement projects.
I had applied for Duke Fuqua's EA round and didn't get an interview invitation. So I've been thinkin of retaking the GMAT and hoping to apply to Texas Austin, Boston Uni and Haas. My essays and recos are evry strong. I have a impressive vision to help re-build my country's healthcare system. I was hoping that this will work as the biggest selling point.
Should I apply with a 620 or retake it.
Thanks in advance.
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I have a bs in mechanical engineering from UCSB. My Gpa is pretty low at 2.85. I just took the gmat and got 700 44 v 42 q. I am probibly going to take it again becuase i think i can do better on the Q. I wanted to apply to a top 15 school and have about 2 years of work exp at the moment at an aerospace engineering firm as a manufacturing engineer.
What are my chances of getting into a program and what can i do to better my chances?
What are my chances of getting into a program and what can i do to better my chances?
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Dear prasath,
You should retake your GMAT to try and improve your score at least 50 points to be competitive for UT-Austin, Boston University and Haas. While I do think your biomedical engineering and experience at GE Healthcare will help distinguish you from the other Indian engineers, the different industry sector is not enough to overcome below average GMAT and GPA. I would also encourage you to identify some other programs that match your career goals and whose GMAT averages are closer to your GMAT score.
Good luck,
Lisa
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Dear jewbagel,
While I do not have enough information on your profile or the schools you are considering, I do think you have the foundation for a competitive application. Your GMAT score does help to mitigate your GPA. It will also be important to convey the quality of the work experience you have gained and a solid rationale for getting your MBA. You should also identify 1-3 schools outside of the top 15 as alternative options.
Good luck,
Lisa
You should retake your GMAT to try and improve your score at least 50 points to be competitive for UT-Austin, Boston University and Haas. While I do think your biomedical engineering and experience at GE Healthcare will help distinguish you from the other Indian engineers, the different industry sector is not enough to overcome below average GMAT and GPA. I would also encourage you to identify some other programs that match your career goals and whose GMAT averages are closer to your GMAT score.
Good luck,
Lisa
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Dear jewbagel,
While I do not have enough information on your profile or the schools you are considering, I do think you have the foundation for a competitive application. Your GMAT score does help to mitigate your GPA. It will also be important to convey the quality of the work experience you have gained and a solid rationale for getting your MBA. You should also identify 1-3 schools outside of the top 15 as alternative options.
Good luck,
Lisa
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Thanks for your response Lisa. The two schools i am looking at are ucla (top 15) and usc. I understand they look at much more then just a gmat or gpa. My main questions are,
Do you think its worth my time to retake the test... i think a 720-740 is within my ability?
Also, do you think i should take accounting/economics classes at a csu in order to boost my gpa?
Thanks for your help
Do you think its worth my time to retake the test... i think a 720-740 is within my ability?
Also, do you think i should take accounting/economics classes at a csu in order to boost my gpa?
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your reply Lisa.
I won't be falling under the Indian applicant pool. I'm a Srilankan. I was hoping my biomedical background combined with the fact that I come from a different culture will distinguish me from other applicants.
The problem is this is my 2nd attempt at GMAT. The first time I scored a 560 (a very bad day). Would taking the gmat for the 3rd time affect the apps? Im not a good standardized test taker. My mock scores were in the 690-750 range. But somehow on the test day it all goes wrong. Contemplating on retaking it again.
Also do you think I can probably build an alternate transcript taking economics/statistics classes. We do not have community colleges here in Srilanka. So I will either have to enrol for an online course or distance learning program. but then I might have to postpone my apps. If you can shed some light on this it would help a lot.
I'm going to take your advice and look into other programs whose GMAT avg are closer to mine.
Thanks for your help and looking fwd to your reply again.
I won't be falling under the Indian applicant pool. I'm a Srilankan. I was hoping my biomedical background combined with the fact that I come from a different culture will distinguish me from other applicants.
The problem is this is my 2nd attempt at GMAT. The first time I scored a 560 (a very bad day). Would taking the gmat for the 3rd time affect the apps? Im not a good standardized test taker. My mock scores were in the 690-750 range. But somehow on the test day it all goes wrong. Contemplating on retaking it again.
Also do you think I can probably build an alternate transcript taking economics/statistics classes. We do not have community colleges here in Srilanka. So I will either have to enrol for an online course or distance learning program. but then I might have to postpone my apps. If you can shed some light on this it would help a lot.
I'm going to take your advice and look into other programs whose GMAT avg are closer to mine.
Thanks for your help and looking fwd to your reply again.
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Dear jewbagel,
If you think you can increase your GMAT score at least 20 points, then it might be worth a retake. A higher score never hurts. As for some courses, these will not boost your GPA as your GPA from college is done. Taking the courses can go to show your commitment to doing well in class and prepare your for business school though.
Regards,
Lisa
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Dear prasath,
Taking the GMAT 3 times does not negatively affect your applications and can go to show perseverance and commitment. If you feel you can increase your score, then it is worth a retake. An alternative transcript of quantitative coursework can also strengthen your application. Distance learning is acceptable and often these courses can be completed at a fast pace. I think you are at a crossroads and need to decide which is more important to you: attending a top 30 program or being in business school next fall. If it is the former, then you might consider waiting a year to have time to take some courses and prepare for a GMAT retake. If you want to be in business school next year, then I would suggest identifying some of the solid MBA programs that are a better match to your profile.
Regards,
Lisa
If you think you can increase your GMAT score at least 20 points, then it might be worth a retake. A higher score never hurts. As for some courses, these will not boost your GPA as your GPA from college is done. Taking the courses can go to show your commitment to doing well in class and prepare your for business school though.
Regards,
Lisa
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Dear prasath,
Taking the GMAT 3 times does not negatively affect your applications and can go to show perseverance and commitment. If you feel you can increase your score, then it is worth a retake. An alternative transcript of quantitative coursework can also strengthen your application. Distance learning is acceptable and often these courses can be completed at a fast pace. I think you are at a crossroads and need to decide which is more important to you: attending a top 30 program or being in business school next fall. If it is the former, then you might consider waiting a year to have time to take some courses and prepare for a GMAT retake. If you want to be in business school next year, then I would suggest identifying some of the solid MBA programs that are a better match to your profile.
Regards,
Lisa
Im indeed at the crossroads! I think if I buckle up and work harder I can get a much better score.
Will try for round 2 of the top 30 if once i tackle the gmat.
Thanks for you reply and words of advice Lisa. Helped a lot.
Will try for round 2 of the top 30 if once i tackle the gmat.
Thanks for you reply and words of advice Lisa. Helped a lot.
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Hello, since i last asked you a question i have retaken the gmat and scored a little better. I scored a 730, v41 q48. I still have a low gpa from uc santa barbara, 2.84 in mechanical engineering. I have decided to wait a year to apply so that i will have around 3 years of work exp at an aerospace firm when i do. My question for you is if you think that a good set of recommendations would be good enough to get me into a top 15 program. Top 10...top 5?. I am asking because i want to know if its too much of a long shot with such a poor undergrad gpa. Thanks for your help.
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Dear jewbagel,
Congratulations on your new score! That is great! I think your GMAT/GPA plus three years of engineering experience will be a competitive profile when you apply to business school. Since admissions decisions are based on more than those numbers, it is hard to comment on your chances at any program without knowing more information. However, I think that you should not be discouraged from applying to any program if you have good recommendations, solid work experience showing progression, and a well-written set of essays conveying your rationale for business school. If you can put together a strong, overall package, then you should be competitive for a top 20 MBA program. As with any prospective MBA applicant, you want to have a mix of schools, so be sure to have some reach, some reasonable, and at least one safety school in your mix.
Good luck,
Lisa
Congratulations on your new score! That is great! I think your GMAT/GPA plus three years of engineering experience will be a competitive profile when you apply to business school. Since admissions decisions are based on more than those numbers, it is hard to comment on your chances at any program without knowing more information. However, I think that you should not be discouraged from applying to any program if you have good recommendations, solid work experience showing progression, and a well-written set of essays conveying your rationale for business school. If you can put together a strong, overall package, then you should be competitive for a top 20 MBA program. As with any prospective MBA applicant, you want to have a mix of schools, so be sure to have some reach, some reasonable, and at least one safety school in your mix.
Good luck,
Lisa
I graduated from Rutgers University this year with a 2.5 Cum Average and a 2.9 major average in Economics. I finished the first 2 years of the engineering program and decided to move on because I was struggling, did not enjoy it, and began experiencing a series of health problems that have since been addressed. I also worked full-time to finance my education (both of my parents lost their jobs) while I was a full time undergraduate and still managed to finish in 4 years. I have been working at a major fortune 100 wall street firm as a financial analyst for the past 3 months and I am looking into Rider University's and Monmouth University's MBA programs. I have legacy and strong connections to alumni networks in both programs through family and friends. I am taking the GMATs this spring and I project I can get somewhere between a 600-700. These schools are looking for around 1000 for a combined GMAT and GPA*200. What do I need to do to maximize the marketability of my application and downplay my subpar GPA?
Thanks,
Nick
Thanks,
Nick
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Dear Nick,
A solid GMAT score will mitigate your GPA as well as a successful track record in your career. Business schools will mainly want to see evidence of quantitative aptitude so that the admissions committee will be confident you can handle the rigor the analytical and quantitative nature of the curriculum. Most schools offer an optional essay for you to explain any extenuating circumstances, so you might consider writing it on your situation during college in that you financed yoru education by working full-time while carrying a full-time number of credits. Additionally, the schools will be looking for a solid rationale from you on why you need an MBA in relation to your past experience and future career goals. So, the best things you can be doing right now are preparing for the GMAT, doing well in your job, and learning about business school/MBA careers so that you will put together a top-notch application.
Good luck,
Lisa
A solid GMAT score will mitigate your GPA as well as a successful track record in your career. Business schools will mainly want to see evidence of quantitative aptitude so that the admissions committee will be confident you can handle the rigor the analytical and quantitative nature of the curriculum. Most schools offer an optional essay for you to explain any extenuating circumstances, so you might consider writing it on your situation during college in that you financed yoru education by working full-time while carrying a full-time number of credits. Additionally, the schools will be looking for a solid rationale from you on why you need an MBA in relation to your past experience and future career goals. So, the best things you can be doing right now are preparing for the GMAT, doing well in your job, and learning about business school/MBA careers so that you will put together a top-notch application.
Good luck,
Lisa
Hi,
I graduated from University of Waterloo (Canada) with a major in Computer science and minor in Business. After that I have been working as a software developer for last 2 years. Now my undergrad avg was around 72%, but my business course avg is close to 80%.
Now my question is given my gpa and line of work, if I get a score of 700+ in GMAT what are the chances of getting into a top tier business school in states? I am targeting for 2011, so by then I should have 4 years of experience.
I graduated from University of Waterloo (Canada) with a major in Computer science and minor in Business. After that I have been working as a software developer for last 2 years. Now my undergrad avg was around 72%, but my business course avg is close to 80%.
Now my question is given my gpa and line of work, if I get a score of 700+ in GMAT what are the chances of getting into a top tier business school in states? I am targeting for 2011, so by then I should have 4 years of experience.
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Dear mak95,
Since business school admissions decisions are based on more than GMAT and GPA, it is hard to comment on how competitive you will be based on your post. With a 700+ GMAT, you will certainly be in a competitive range on that measure. Your GPA is probably a little below average for a top tier MBA program in the US, but that does not negate your chances if you have an otherwise strong application.
Good luck,
Lisa
Since business school admissions decisions are based on more than GMAT and GPA, it is hard to comment on how competitive you will be based on your post. With a 700+ GMAT, you will certainly be in a competitive range on that measure. Your GPA is probably a little below average for a top tier MBA program in the US, but that does not negate your chances if you have an otherwise strong application.
Good luck,
Lisa
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In my home university there is no valuating grades in terms of GPA. My average is 7,74 (scale is 5-10). How would I write that in terms of GPA ?
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Dear Lattefah84,
For the most accurate conversion, you can have your transcript evaluated by a credentialing service like World Evaluation Services or Global Credential Evaluators. These services do charge a fee, but their assessment is accepted by most schools so you would only have to have it done one time. They also offer translation services if your transcript is not in English.
Good luck,
Lisa
For the most accurate conversion, you can have your transcript evaluated by a credentialing service like World Evaluation Services or Global Credential Evaluators. These services do charge a fee, but their assessment is accepted by most schools so you would only have to have it done one time. They also offer translation services if your transcript is not in English.
Good luck,
Lisa












