Dear Violeta,
I would encourage you to pay the fee to have your transcript from Spain evaluated by a credentialing service. Not only will they be able to show what your degree is equivalent to in the US, but they will do a GPA conversion for you. Based on what you posted, I would assume your GPA is not equivalent to 1.33 in the US as US colleges generally require graduates to have a 2.0 in order to graduate. There are two credentialing services that are well-known and respected in the US--World Evaluation Services and Global Credential Evaluators.
Secondly, I would agree that a strong GMAT score will also be helpful in showing your academic ability. I would think aiming for a 680 or higher would put you in the best position, but even scoring at least a 650 will still be within range for the part-time program. Decisions are not made on GMAT and GPA alone, so you can strengthen your application with well-written essays and quality work experience. Be sure to highlight your accomplishments and contributions to IBM as well as your progression in your career.
As for writing an optional essay on your GPA, I would wait to see what the equivalency turns out to be. If it is below a 3.0, then you might consider it since it has only been about 3 years since you were in school. By "no excuses", I mean that you should not simply write about why you did not perform to your abilities but focus the essay on why you will perform better in business school--how are you a different person now? If you want to disclose your mitigating circumstances for your GPA you can, just be sure to write the bulk of your essay on how you are more prepared, motivated and focused now.
Best of luck,
Lisa
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Hi,
I am from India. I need a good advice which will help me in deciding my MBA program.
About me:
Degree: B.Tech (Information Technology)
Percentage : 62
Passed out : 2003 ( 25 arrears - failure papers , but completed the degree in the given time span of 4 yrs)
Work Experinece: 5Y 6M - 2 yrs as a Project lead
Industry : Software
Overseas Experience: Worked in US for a period of 6 M
Worked in Netherlands for a period of 10 days
Visa Rejections : Got rejected for F1 US visa 2 times for an MS program (2003 nov ,2004 Jan)
I am interested in doing an MBA program in anyone of the top 100 Bschool other than US and UK.
Which are the important areas where i need to concentrate to get an admission.
Help from anyone is appreciated
I am from India. I need a good advice which will help me in deciding my MBA program.
About me:
Degree: B.Tech (Information Technology)
Percentage : 62
Passed out : 2003 ( 25 arrears - failure papers , but completed the degree in the given time span of 4 yrs)
Work Experinece: 5Y 6M - 2 yrs as a Project lead
Industry : Software
Overseas Experience: Worked in US for a period of 6 M
Worked in Netherlands for a period of 10 days
Visa Rejections : Got rejected for F1 US visa 2 times for an MS program (2003 nov ,2004 Jan)
I am interested in doing an MBA program in anyone of the top 100 Bschool other than US and UK.
Which are the important areas where i need to concentrate to get an admission.
Help from anyone is appreciated
K.Ajay.K
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Dear KajayK,
With your grades in college, a high GMAT score will help to mitigate that aspect of your application. Ideally, you want to be above the average of any school you apply to, so aiming for a score in the 700s will put you in the best position. However, I think you will still have plenty of options with a GMAT score above a 660.
The main aspect of your application you need to work on is putting together essays and recommendations that will make you a compelling applicant and distinguish you from similar profiles in the applicant pool. Think about what experiences make you unique from other IT professionals in India and highlight those in your applications.
Good luck,
Lisa
With your grades in college, a high GMAT score will help to mitigate that aspect of your application. Ideally, you want to be above the average of any school you apply to, so aiming for a score in the 700s will put you in the best position. However, I think you will still have plenty of options with a GMAT score above a 660.
The main aspect of your application you need to work on is putting together essays and recommendations that will make you a compelling applicant and distinguish you from similar profiles in the applicant pool. Think about what experiences make you unique from other IT professionals in India and highlight those in your applications.
Good luck,
Lisa
Lisa,
Do you have your consulting services in India? If not is there a possibility i can process my application through you once i finish taking Gmat?
Do you have your consulting services in India? If not is there a possibility i can process my application through you once i finish taking Gmat?
Lisa Anderson wrote:Dear KajayK,
With your grades in college, a high GMAT score will help to mitigate that aspect of your application. Ideally, you want to be above the average of any school you apply to, so aiming for a score in the 700s will put you in the best position. However, I think you will still have plenty of options with a GMAT score above a 660.
The main aspect of your application you need to work on is putting together essays and recommendations that will make you a compelling applicant and distinguish you from similar profiles in the applicant pool. Think about what experiences make you unique from other IT professionals in India and highlight those in your applications.
Good luck,
Lisa
K.Ajay.K
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Thank you for asking about our services. I will direct you to our website for more detail on services and prices, www.stacyblackman.com. We do work with clients all over the globe.
Regards,
Lisa
Regards,
Lisa
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Lisa,
Thank you for all of your help. Your guidance on subject such as low GPA is greatly appreciated. I was wondering if you wouldn’t mind taking a look at my profile combined with my below average GPA.
3.0 GPA top 10 liberal arts college (my math courses were a little low in the beginning, but picked up in the end)
Economics major (sociology minor)
Captain of college basketball team
Business Society Member
Worked for non-profit while in college
3 ½ years professional experience working for a foreign-owned financial services company
I have not taken the GMAT yet, but my practice tests are hovering around 600. I recently enrolled into a prep class and hopefully I will be able to bump my GMAT up in the 650+ range.
Ideally I would love to try to get into a top business school. Other good schools I am interested in are Villanova and Temple.
If you could give me some feedback in regards to my profile I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you for all of your help. Your guidance on subject such as low GPA is greatly appreciated. I was wondering if you wouldn’t mind taking a look at my profile combined with my below average GPA.
3.0 GPA top 10 liberal arts college (my math courses were a little low in the beginning, but picked up in the end)
Economics major (sociology minor)
Captain of college basketball team
Business Society Member
Worked for non-profit while in college
3 ½ years professional experience working for a foreign-owned financial services company
I have not taken the GMAT yet, but my practice tests are hovering around 600. I recently enrolled into a prep class and hopefully I will be able to bump my GMAT up in the 650+ range.
Ideally I would love to try to get into a top business school. Other good schools I am interested in are Villanova and Temple.
If you could give me some feedback in regards to my profile I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
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Dear gabriel16,
With a GPA below a 3.2, the GMAT score really needs to be on the higher side, ideally above the average for the schools you apply to. You have enough experience, but make sure you can articulate the quality of your experience in your tenure. Also, you did not mention any outside interests or involvement, so that is something you might want to work on if you don't have any extracurriculars to note in your applications.
Good luck,
Lisa
With a GPA below a 3.2, the GMAT score really needs to be on the higher side, ideally above the average for the schools you apply to. You have enough experience, but make sure you can articulate the quality of your experience in your tenure. Also, you did not mention any outside interests or involvement, so that is something you might want to work on if you don't have any extracurriculars to note in your applications.
Good luck,
Lisa
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Lisa,
Thanks very much for your reply. Given my lower GPA I can certainly understand that I need to come through with an above average GMAT score. Assuming the average GMAT is 650 at some of the schools I am looking at, is it fair to say that 680+ should be a good goal for my GMAT score?
Lastly, and I don’t mean this to be arrogant, but do business schools take into account strength of school? How does my GPA at a good school compare to a higher GPA at a school that is ranked significantly lower in terms of academics?
Thanks again. You are awesome.
Thanks very much for your reply. Given my lower GPA I can certainly understand that I need to come through with an above average GMAT score. Assuming the average GMAT is 650 at some of the schools I am looking at, is it fair to say that 680+ should be a good goal for my GMAT score?
Lastly, and I don’t mean this to be arrogant, but do business schools take into account strength of school? How does my GPA at a good school compare to a higher GPA at a school that is ranked significantly lower in terms of academics?
Thanks again. You are awesome.
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Dear gabriel16,
Schools do take into account the academic rigor of your institution when evaluating your undergraduate performance. So, there is a difference in a 3.0 at one school versus another. I think aiming for 20+ points over the school's average GMAT is a pretty good ballpark for your GMAT score, but you should not rule out schools where your GMAT is at the average either.
Best of luck,
Lisa
Schools do take into account the academic rigor of your institution when evaluating your undergraduate performance. So, there is a difference in a 3.0 at one school versus another. I think aiming for 20+ points over the school's average GMAT is a pretty good ballpark for your GMAT score, but you should not rule out schools where your GMAT is at the average either.
Best of luck,
Lisa
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Thank you again for your prompt and thorough replies. At this point my main goal is to score a 680+ seeing that the schools I am interesting in, and feel I have a legitimate shot of admittance to, have an average GMAT of around 650. Hopefully thing work out for me after my prep class and I can come through on the GMAT.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
Hi Lisa,
I graduated with a B.S. in Mathematics from MIT but to the competitive grading and my immaturity I finished with a lackluster GPA, roughly 2.5. I took some undergraduate electrical engineering classes at University of California Irvine in order to apply for a Masters degree and received all A's. I recently obtained my Masters with a 3.8+ GPA in electrical engineering. I have not taken the GMAT yet, but plan to by the end of the year (I am applying for my MBA in the Fall of 2010. I did receive a 1400 on the GRE (Math and Verbal) so I am expecting a very solid GMAT score with some intense studying.
I had a couple of questions
1) Apart from the GMAT and the Masters degree in electrical engineering is there any sense in taking further classes in order to make up for my low undergraduate GPA?
I am looking into schools like UCLA, MIT, and Michigan. Since I live near UCLA, I am thinking of taking MBA classes through UCLA's extension program. Is this worthwhile?
2) As an engineer it is difficult to really be exposed to many managerial opportunities. I have recently became director of a non-for profit with a cause that I share in helping educate underprivileged kids. I am in charge of jump-starting this initiative in my area. I am also involved in Toastmasters' at work and the Alumni Club for MIT.
Unfortunately while obtaining my Masters I didn't have time to work full time and to also do much community leadership Is a year and a half enough time to showcase this?
Thank you,
David
I graduated with a B.S. in Mathematics from MIT but to the competitive grading and my immaturity I finished with a lackluster GPA, roughly 2.5. I took some undergraduate electrical engineering classes at University of California Irvine in order to apply for a Masters degree and received all A's. I recently obtained my Masters with a 3.8+ GPA in electrical engineering. I have not taken the GMAT yet, but plan to by the end of the year (I am applying for my MBA in the Fall of 2010. I did receive a 1400 on the GRE (Math and Verbal) so I am expecting a very solid GMAT score with some intense studying.
I had a couple of questions
1) Apart from the GMAT and the Masters degree in electrical engineering is there any sense in taking further classes in order to make up for my low undergraduate GPA?
I am looking into schools like UCLA, MIT, and Michigan. Since I live near UCLA, I am thinking of taking MBA classes through UCLA's extension program. Is this worthwhile?
2) As an engineer it is difficult to really be exposed to many managerial opportunities. I have recently became director of a non-for profit with a cause that I share in helping educate underprivileged kids. I am in charge of jump-starting this initiative in my area. I am also involved in Toastmasters' at work and the Alumni Club for MIT.
Unfortunately while obtaining my Masters I didn't have time to work full time and to also do much community leadership Is a year and a half enough time to showcase this?
Thank you,
David
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Dear David,
1) Apart from the GMAT and the Masters degree in electrical engineering is there any sense in taking further classes in order to make up for my low undergraduate GPA? I am looking into schools like UCLA, MIT, and Michigan. Since I live near UCLA, I am thinking of taking MBA classes through UCLA's extension program. Is this worthwhile?
I don't think that you need to build an alternative transcript with your profile. If you want to take classes to gain some knowledge of business prior to business school, then you might consider taking a class, but it would be more for your personal development than strengthening your application.
2) As an engineer it is difficult to really be exposed to many managerial opportunities. I have recently became director of a non-for profit with a cause that I share in helping educate underprivileged kids. I am in charge of jump-starting this initiative in my area. I am also involved in Toastmasters' at work and the Alumni Club for MIT. Unfortunately while obtaining my Masters I didn't have time to work full time and to also do much community leadership Is a year and a half enough time to showcase this?
If you are referring to 18 months of working with the nonprofit, then I think that is ample time--especially since you are in a leadership role.
Best of luck,
Lisa
1) Apart from the GMAT and the Masters degree in electrical engineering is there any sense in taking further classes in order to make up for my low undergraduate GPA? I am looking into schools like UCLA, MIT, and Michigan. Since I live near UCLA, I am thinking of taking MBA classes through UCLA's extension program. Is this worthwhile?
I don't think that you need to build an alternative transcript with your profile. If you want to take classes to gain some knowledge of business prior to business school, then you might consider taking a class, but it would be more for your personal development than strengthening your application.
2) As an engineer it is difficult to really be exposed to many managerial opportunities. I have recently became director of a non-for profit with a cause that I share in helping educate underprivileged kids. I am in charge of jump-starting this initiative in my area. I am also involved in Toastmasters' at work and the Alumni Club for MIT. Unfortunately while obtaining my Masters I didn't have time to work full time and to also do much community leadership Is a year and a half enough time to showcase this?
If you are referring to 18 months of working with the nonprofit, then I think that is ample time--especially since you are in a leadership role.
Best of luck,
Lisa
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Hi Stacy,
I'm looking to apply to Cal Poly SLO/San Diego State Univ. for my MBA in Finance.
Here's my profile. I graduated from U. California Davis with a meager 2.6 gpa in Economics and International Relations. I screwed up big time due to my lack of maturity as well as working almost full time during my 4 years in undergrad. I will have a personal statement that will explain why my gpa is so low. The two schools have min. GPA of 2.85 as well as a 550gmat from what I remember. What gmat score should I aim for in order to be more competitive? I've been with 2 major investment management firms since graduation and most recently Deutsche Bank in their Hedge Fund services dept. I've been promoted faster than anyone here. I will have letters of rec from a Hedge Fund Manager that I work closely with as well several CFO's at different Hedge Funds. Please let me know if there are other things I should try to improve on.
Thanks,
I'm looking to apply to Cal Poly SLO/San Diego State Univ. for my MBA in Finance.
Here's my profile. I graduated from U. California Davis with a meager 2.6 gpa in Economics and International Relations. I screwed up big time due to my lack of maturity as well as working almost full time during my 4 years in undergrad. I will have a personal statement that will explain why my gpa is so low. The two schools have min. GPA of 2.85 as well as a 550gmat from what I remember. What gmat score should I aim for in order to be more competitive? I've been with 2 major investment management firms since graduation and most recently Deutsche Bank in their Hedge Fund services dept. I've been promoted faster than anyone here. I will have letters of rec from a Hedge Fund Manager that I work closely with as well several CFO's at different Hedge Funds. Please let me know if there are other things I should try to improve on.
Thanks,
Hi
I want to attend a top tier business school, entering in either 2010 or 2011. However, I have concerns regarding my undergraduated GPA. I graduated from a strong undergraduate business program with concentrations in finance and marketing. My cumulative GPA was low (~3.1) while my major GPA was 3.4. Long story short, I enjoyed my first year in school a bit too much but consistently improved my grades year to year, particularly while taking more business courses. (Additional info: 5 years of work experience in management consulting, specifically focused on healthcare, have held managerial positions at previous firm, GMAT in April.)
I'd appreciate any advice on the following:
1) Should I be concerned that my cumulative GPA is too low for a top school? Is positioning my major GPA as representative of my aptitude for business school the most effective way of overcoming this score?
2) Should I be concerned that my concentration performance and type of coursework as a finance and marketing major will work against me, especially as the types of courses are similar to those offered at most business schools?
3) I'm considering building an alternative transcript to counter poor performance in relevant classes I took as an undergrad; the intention is to focus on those classes that I did not do as well in and improve my grades.
Thanks for the advice.
I want to attend a top tier business school, entering in either 2010 or 2011. However, I have concerns regarding my undergraduated GPA. I graduated from a strong undergraduate business program with concentrations in finance and marketing. My cumulative GPA was low (~3.1) while my major GPA was 3.4. Long story short, I enjoyed my first year in school a bit too much but consistently improved my grades year to year, particularly while taking more business courses. (Additional info: 5 years of work experience in management consulting, specifically focused on healthcare, have held managerial positions at previous firm, GMAT in April.)
I'd appreciate any advice on the following:
1) Should I be concerned that my cumulative GPA is too low for a top school? Is positioning my major GPA as representative of my aptitude for business school the most effective way of overcoming this score?
2) Should I be concerned that my concentration performance and type of coursework as a finance and marketing major will work against me, especially as the types of courses are similar to those offered at most business schools?
3) I'm considering building an alternative transcript to counter poor performance in relevant classes I took as an undergrad; the intention is to focus on those classes that I did not do as well in and improve my grades.
Thanks for the advice.
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Hi,
I'm concerned with the low GPA i received from my undergrad business school. I received a ~2.6 GPA and was also put in academic suspension my first year. The reason why my GPA is so low is because i was working full-time while going to school full-time as well.
I have 9 years of professional experience, and am an active volunteer in my community. I have strong recommendations from the director of my current company and a senior manager of my past company, as well as from the president of my volunteer organization.
My concern is that I am trying to get into George Washington University's MBA program and their requirements for the part-time MBA is a 3.2 GPA and a 580 on the GMATs. What should my target GMAT score be to get accepted into this program?
Thanks for your help!
I'm concerned with the low GPA i received from my undergrad business school. I received a ~2.6 GPA and was also put in academic suspension my first year. The reason why my GPA is so low is because i was working full-time while going to school full-time as well.
I have 9 years of professional experience, and am an active volunteer in my community. I have strong recommendations from the director of my current company and a senior manager of my past company, as well as from the president of my volunteer organization.
My concern is that I am trying to get into George Washington University's MBA program and their requirements for the part-time MBA is a 3.2 GPA and a 580 on the GMATs. What should my target GMAT score be to get accepted into this program?
Thanks for your help!












